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Author | Topic: A Simplified Proof That The Universe Cannot Be Explained | |||||||||||||||||||||||
jar Member (Idle past 394 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Is there a point or value to your assertion? Is it really just turtles all the way down?
Does it matter whether or not there is or was some first cause? Are we not more interested in what caused this accident, what caused this fire, what caused this banana to taste better than that banana? Edited by jar, : appalin spallinAnyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 394 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
But you are assuming that the explanation must be logical and that the first cause had to be caused? Other than your unsupported assertions is there any evidence the first cause had to be caused?
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 394 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Logically there can be no explanation because there is no first cause. There is only a first thing and it is uncaused. That is the point of the proof. But there can be an explanation; for example "The first cause has no prior cause." would be an explanation. "It is turtles all the way down." is an explanation. "Brahma slept and dreamed." is an explanation.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 394 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
All great questions but irrelevant to the topic of the OP.
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 394 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
How so? Is the topic not " A Simplified Proof That The Universe Cannot Be Explained"? If the universe is explained then would those not be other questions?
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 394 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
If the explanation is that the first cause had no prior cause is that not an explanation?
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 394 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
But that is not what he asked, and if the answer to any of those is simply that it has no cause then that is the explanation.
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 394 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Why is it not an explanation?
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 394 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
But if "it just exists" is true then yes it is an explanation.
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 394 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
quote: But you have still never explained why those things are impossible to explain someday? Or why there are only the two options? So I don't quite see how you really have anything!
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jar Member (Idle past 394 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
And everybody knows that the Ultimate Answer is "42".
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jar Member (Idle past 394 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Exactly. Unexplained things get assigned to the Unexplained category.
Making up explanations like 'God did it' is simply childish, not honest and silly.My Website: My Website
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jar Member (Idle past 394 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Phat writes: But surely God has to do something.As a believer, what would you imagine GOD to do? Create universes and ignore His beloved pond scum? Why does God have to do something? You still are not addressing the differences between belief, knowledge and reality.My Website: My Website
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