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ThinAirDesigns Member (Idle past 2399 days) Posts: 564 Joined: |
So here is a snippet from Geological Survey Professional Paper, Volume 669 (pulled up via a "Tapeats Sandstone England" Google books search)
It talks about these formations "correlating" with certain formations in England. I'm wondering what that term means in this context ... temporally? Geological Survey Professional Paper - Google Books
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ThinAirDesigns Member (Idle past 2399 days) Posts: 564 Joined: |
Snelling does talk about rapid deposition in the sentence right after what I quoted -- I cut it out because my question was only regarding the range portion of the paragraph.
The entire paragraph follows, including the rapid deposition sentence:
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ThinAirDesigns Member (Idle past 2399 days) Posts: 564 Joined: |
Here is another statement about 'range' that interests me:
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/creation-conference.html
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ThinAirDesigns Member (Idle past 2399 days) Posts: 564 Joined: |
Thanks JohF.
I didn't know you hung out over at TR. A few years back some silly work of mine resulted in the largest and longest TR science thread ever (DDWFTTW). JB
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ThinAirDesigns Member (Idle past 2399 days) Posts: 564 Joined: |
Thank Jonf. Appreciated.
JB
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ThinAirDesigns Member (Idle past 2399 days) Posts: 564 Joined: |
I'm struggling with a small detail in my research on the history of dendrochronology as it relates to the White Mountain Bristlecone pines.
Wikepedia lists the Pinus longaeva and the Pinus aristata as two distinct species with two distinct ranges (with little to no range overlap). Bristlecone pine - Wikipedia This Forest Service link lists Pinus aristata as a "synonym" to the Pinus longaeva. http://www.fs.fed.us/...ase/feis/plants/tree/pinlon/all.html While this link specifically lists the ancient grove species as Pinus aristata. Just a moment... What gives? This is an important detail for me to sort out since Lammerts (in his oft quoted and bullshit multiple ring per year "study") says he used the Colorado species (see below)
quote: If the longaeva an the aristata are distinct species as per the Wiki with a non-overlapping range, how can the the Ancient Grove be aristata? ThanksJB
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ThinAirDesigns Member (Idle past 2399 days) Posts: 564 Joined: |
And your position would be consistent with the Wiki -- but inconsistent with the Forest Service link and the Sciencemag link.
It is this discrepancy that I am trying to reconcile. ThanksJB
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ThinAirDesigns Member (Idle past 2399 days) Posts: 564 Joined: |
Thanks PaulK. That may well be the answer.
Perhaps RAZD has some good historical info on this. JB
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ThinAirDesigns Member (Idle past 2399 days) Posts: 564 Joined: |
"Tree-ring dating and multiple ring growth per year' Aardsma. CRSQ 29, Spring. pages 184189.
Tried my local library online journal access. No luck. Any assistance appreciated. JB
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ThinAirDesigns Member (Idle past 2399 days) Posts: 564 Joined: |
Thanks. I've seen the abstract -- just trying to not spend eight bucks for a hard copy of the article (it's not the $8 bucks that bothers me but who I would have to send it to)
Even tried to get Aardsma himself to send me the text -- no luck. JB
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ThinAirDesigns Member (Idle past 2399 days) Posts: 564 Joined: |
I promise you I couldn't give two craps for his theories.
As often is the case for my requests for literature, I'm only interested in the article to refute claim of what YEC family says is in the article that I believe is not in the article. The quickest way for me to show that YEC folk lie about what is in an article is to produce the article and show the lies. JB Edited by ThinAirDesigns, : No reason given.
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ThinAirDesigns Member (Idle past 2399 days) Posts: 564 Joined: |
My small town library in Georgia only had access to this database and it didn't contain any of the CRS quarterlies:
GALILEO Search I will next go up the Tennessee direction to a larger library and try your WorldCat suggestion. ThanksJB Edited by ThinAirDesigns, : No reason given. Edited by ThinAirDesigns, : No reason given.
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ThinAirDesigns Member (Idle past 2399 days) Posts: 564 Joined: |
NICE!
I shall try that next. ThanksJB
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ThinAirDesigns Member (Idle past 2399 days) Posts: 564 Joined: |
I live right below Covenant at the bottom of the mountain and run the 5 miles up to the College almost every day.
JB
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I belong to a FB group called "SDA Fight Club" where Seventh Day Adventists and Ex SDAs mingle and discuss topics that are typically controversial between the two groups (non-SDAs are allowed, but the topics tend to be SDA related).
With knowledge I've learned here on EVC (thanks everyone) and other places, I've been for a while now putting up a fair bit of material from the science world working towards educating members on both the pretend SDA science and the actual science science. Following are the links to a 4 part series I just completed on reference dendrochronologies. So many here have helped me on this topic that I thought I would share. Also I know if I got something wrong this crew will correct me. Thanks
Dendrochronology Part 1 Dendrochronology Part 2 Dendrochronology Part 3 Dendrochronology Part 4 Edited by ThinAirDesigns, : No reason given.
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