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Author Topic:   Democracy! who's gonna define
Peter
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Message 3 of 24 (76964)
01-07-2004 7:32 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by iftikhar
01-03-2004 10:19 PM


There's only one democratic act -- debating until a concensus
is reached.
There aren't any democracies on this planet though (or at
least none that I know of).

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Peter
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Message 9 of 24 (77288)
01-09-2004 4:58 AM
Reply to: Message 4 by Abshalom
01-07-2004 12:07 PM


quote:
1) Uncensored Speech, or speech reasonably limited only to protect others against a threat of immediate loss of life, limb, or property.
2) Unbridled Practice of Personal Belief, or practice of belief reasonably limited only to protect others from immediate loss of life, limb, or property. This includes nonviolent civil disobedience.
3) Vociferous Cynicism, Iconoclasm, and Heretical Outbursts of Challenge. Do I need to go into this category in detail? I think not.
These are all to be hoped for, but not unique qualities of a
democracy. With a reasonable autocrat any of those could be
the case ... OK so go find a reasonable autocrat (or even the
right word for that person ) .... but then again go find me
a genuine democracy.
I don't think there are any, but that Switzerland thing sounds
like a good start.

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Peter
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Message 12 of 24 (78164)
01-13-2004 4:46 AM
Reply to: Message 11 by defenderofthefaith
01-10-2004 4:31 AM


Voting isn't democracy it's majority rule, surely?

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Peter
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Message 13 of 24 (78165)
01-13-2004 4:49 AM
Reply to: Message 10 by Abshalom
01-09-2004 10:45 AM


Not True Democracy ... Why?
I think it's more that some people desire power over
others.
I have always considered that anyone who stands for election,
by definition is that last person you should give power to.
What would motivate someone to want to be the supreme power on
the planet in charge of armies and technology sufficient to
subjugate the planet?

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Peter
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Message 15 of 24 (78337)
01-14-2004 4:35 AM
Reply to: Message 14 by Abshalom
01-13-2004 10:29 AM


Re: Power-hungry Candidates
Point(s) taken.
My main concern/feeling was relating to, for example,
UK MP's or running for Prime Minister. I accept that I
am guilty of over-generalisation, as I am sure that there
are some people who enter the political arena with the best
of intentions ... unfortunately we all know where they lead
I think a system of random selection would actually be better
provided that no one person or interest group held power
for a long time.

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