Yes, The Real The New Awesome Primary Thread

There was that one time.....uh, no, you're right. Too bad.

They are going to have plenty more chances to wish it isn't so. He's going to try again and again. Ted's a turd that will not flush.

Trump's own crap pile isn't likely to be successfully swept under the carpet.You're right, Trump is unique.....we have never had this big a slimeball in the presidential finals before. Or someone as uniquely unknowledgeable of presidential responsibilities.

Trump does not seem to know that there are many limitations on the power of the presidency. He seems to think it is a dictatorship and that everyone will obey his orders.Trump seems to think that he can demand the respect of other nations for himself and the U.S. He thinks that the rest of the world should automatically realize that the U.S. so special that that they will always sacrifice their own best interests so the U.S. can be great again.He visited my state of Oregon yesterday and all he seemed to know of our history was that most of the timber mills had shut down in the 80s. He thinks everyone has been sitting around in misery feeling sorry for themselves ever since. What he doesn't know is that Oregonians became alarmed that all of our old growth forests were being clearcut and that if something wasn't done they would soon be gone, so we stopped it. He says he will bring back the timber jobs. Oregon has moved on and there is no industrial infrastructure to go back to a timber-based economy.Trump's grasp of history is woefully lacking. Trump's ignorance of the issues that humanity faces and his refusal to consider that the people who have been studying those issues might be able to offer valuable guidance doesn't inspire my confidence.Many of the jobs he says he will bring back have been replaced with automation. In Oregon, most (80-90%) of the lumber mill jobs had been replaced by automation before the timber operators were stopped from cutting the last of our public forests.Whipping up the anger of people, with false promises to get elected, might not end well. Encouraging his followers to blame immigrants, blacks, Hispanics, scientists, federal workers, etc. for all the problems in our country will certainly not unite us to accomplish anything.Maybe you have not noticed, but Trump has never offered any actual plans to accomplish anything, just bluster that it will be fantastic. Every day he demonstrates in his speeches that he has no clue what he is talking about, but when he is called on it, he attacks his critics rather than acknowledging his errors. If a leader has no actual knowledge about the problems our nation faces, his solutions are likely to make things worse, don't you think?

So, you think maybe we need to scrape the bottom of the barrel to get the message?Some of the things that are getting worse may reach a tipping point where no solution can reverse them and an irresponsible, ignorant leader could force us to a tipping point earlier and create new "deep shit problems" that will be difficult or impossible to address.If the economy, the infrastructure, the government is destroyed what good is a consensus going to do to fix things? That seems like a really risky, dangerous path. I don't think Trump or someone like him can provide leadership. Well, global wars and epidemics do briefly cut population, but the amount of suffering and destruction hardly seems an acceptable price. The worldwide economic depressions and recessions were bad but not complete collapses of society; money, food, and jobs were scarce but not completely gone. Agriculture still existed and was able to feed the survivors. We might not be so lucky without leadership who actually have knowledge beyond bluster.We have never had a serious epidemic since our society became globally interconnected. We have not faced a disease with a long incubation period, that spreads from human contact and that has a high lethality.I assume when you say "the world has survived" and "it will likely survive even this", you mean humanity, but what makes you think the biosphere, let alone humanity can survive climate change and an exploding human population? The threats to the whole planet have never been a part of a single thought in Trump's incredible brain.

Well, they were lucky to have help rebuilding and with huge deliveries of food.A world with 7.4 billion people, a global war when a dozen or so nations have large nuclear arsenals may preclude recovery and may be the events that actually destroy the biosphere. I don't know how to answer this, except to note that non-leadership didn't work out so well in Somalia. And then we can expel the people we don't like.....all the assholes are deported to Mississippi.

I kind of picked Mississippi from the group of poor states that seem to come out near the bottom of rankings in things like education and health care, plus they have that slimeball former senator Trent Lott.From what I have seen the red states that want to dump the rest of us in a breakup into separate countries, would be the big losers since they now benefit by getting more federal funding than they pay in federal taxes.I have been to Mississippi and Alabama, in fact to all the SE, and there are places that are as bad to live in as the third world countries I have visited. Their local governments, legislatures, and members of Congress should all be ashamed of themselves because they are directly responsible for the utter failure to serve their citizens.