Yes, The Real The New Awesome Primary Thread

We will wash it away. Won't we, jar?Is the whole republic so far gone we can't do that?We can still do this. Can't we, jar?Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.Edited by AZPaul3, : pleading

That was back when his stupid stuff actually reflected what a big segment actually believed. I don't think much of anyone is in favor of throwing women in jail. They want to punish doctors, with the most extreme element willing to even kill doctors. I think only about 4 people want to imprison woman who have had an abortion.

I'm just briefly stepping in as Admin for this single post. I've been silent as Percy for a few days in case moderator action was required, but maybe now after AZPaul3's post that won't be necessary. I suggest that the war crimes discussion resume in the Presidential Candidates thread, or even better, in a new thread. If at least some participants are trying to engage in serious discussion then I will moderate so that the remaining participants follow suit.

Each of the examples I mentioned did get washed away (although there was a Baby Doc too) but the washing was expensive in lives and did take time and in almost every case the voters said "We didn't know!".

This election gives me an uneasy feeling like no other. I realize that the vote will likely go down as Donald Trump vs Hillary Clinton, and am concerned at the direction our country is taking. Personally I like Sanders. That being said, I was just exposed to quite a nifty piece of propaganda sent to me by one of my Christian friends.The video is pro Trump and yet it paints a picture of the guy that is almost Messianic.In my belief, other Christians can no more tell me how to vote than can they tell me how to believe!This isn't funny anymore.

I just want to give Stephen Harper a big hug. The politicians we fire are better than the best you guys have to choose from.

It might be worthwhile reading It Can't Happen Here By Sinclair Lewis (another of those books that should be mandatory reading by 8th grade) which was written in 1935 (note the time frame). Many folk think it is referring to Adolph Hitler but it's far more likely that the target was more home grown, Huey Long, another darling of the conservatives and Bible Christians.Why are there potential voters in the US today who are not aware of the book or Huey Long?

To be honest, I have heard of Huey Long and also of Sinclair Lewis (The Jungle) but have never read this particular book. Yet.

Millennials disagree with your assessment. May you live long enough to witness, after Hillary meets and possibly exceeds the two war, one recession minimum set by the Bushes, Elizabeth Warren as President in 2020.Sheesh what pessimists, go back to reading Schopenhauer and stop picking on millennials before they wish you and your extremely limited idea of the possible - dead.

Hi, Mod,I thought I'd jump in on a couple of your quotes here:

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I’m looking forward to a Trump presidency. When he is President, maybe people will realize the President doesn’t actually have all that much power.

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I can sort of agree with this sentiment: none of the candidates is really likely to accomplish the objectives they're setting out in their campaigns, because all their ideas involve legislation, which isn't the President's job.But, the "power" that Trump wields is the ability to rally the wackos. President Trump would probably function as a validation for a lot of extremists. He'd probably also release a constant stream of provocative speeches, which would embolden a lot of already-unapologetic people who really should be practicing more temperance. This is the kind of sociopolitical volatility that concerns me the most.

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I stand with Trump because, despite what the media says, he is the most moderate Republican running.

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Hillary isn’t an option because she is by far the biggest liar I have ever heard. Sanders promotes democratic socialism and although I would benefit from some of his plans, I don’t feel that free education and a $15 minimum wage would benefit our society.

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Frankly, I think the Sanders campaign is fueled entirely by unbounded optimism. Since I'm not a natural optimist, "feeling the Bern" seems like a euphemism for cognitive dissonance to me.

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Sanders is the spark of something big. Should he lose the nomination, I would vote Republican to see that spark become a flame.

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This doesn't just apply to Sanders: it applies to all the "one vote backwards to go two votes forward" concepts that people are sometimes talking about.Do we really think this kind of thing works? I have an autistic child. He doesn't learn from his mistakes very well, and has a difficult time getting out of his routines, even when he knows (intellectually) that his routine is causing him problems. So, the "Bruce Almighty" approach (give them the power so they can learn what happens when they use it wrong) never seemed like a good idea to me.

From leading in Wisconsin by 10 points last month to a 13 point loss the Stop Trump movement has had a major impact. Unfortunately for Republicans their second major wingnut, Cruz, is the beneficiary. The Republican leadership are in a deep hurt, desperately trying to force a brokered convention where openly partisan rules changes might tilt the results to a mainstream conservative candidate like Kasich or (persistent rumors) Paul Ryan.Sanders continues to play catch-up quite nicely. Doing well in New York, April 19, and in Maryland and Pennsylvania, April 26, could seriously threaten Clinton's apparent coronation as Queen of the Convention. sourceEdited by AZPaul3, : oops, sourceEdited by Admin, : Narrow image width.

AZPaul3 Cruz really is just as much as a wingnut as Trump. I don't want to believe that the normally quite sane voters in a state such as Wisconsin can vote for anyone like that. But, then again, apparently 4 out of 10 Republican voters in that state described themselves as evangelical...

Good Lord, you are where I've been for around 20 years. I've been voting for what I've thought to have been the least crazy of all the crazy people. In the end all the people I've voted for ended up to be equally ridiculously crazy and also very rich afterwards. (And I vote in 2 different countries!) Whether being in Government or in Opposition. Politicians get very rich. They look after each other. And they stuff normal people.Edited by Pressie, : No reason given.

Do you know who are governor is? Do you know about Senator Johnson? Do you realize who we just elected to the State Supreme Court?Many of us have started to refer to the state as Wississippi.

Ugh was just going to mention Scooter and Bradley... How can we vote for Bernie AND Bradley....mind is numb