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Dr Adequate
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Message 1276 of 1639 (780367)
03-14-2016 5:06 PM
Reply to: Message 1272 by Faith
03-14-2016 4:14 PM


Re: "Great Honor" For Trump
Political correctness is the whitewashing of the burning of the cars to deny that it's Muslim jihad.
That would just be correctness.
And it's really really weird that that level of destructive violence would be described as the expression of "bored young men."
Of course it is. Who else? Who defaces things with graffiti, Faith? Who vandalizes bus stops? Who smashed phone boxes back when we had phone boxes? Is not gratuitous vandalism almost invariably perpetrated by young males with too much free time and insufficient intelligence to make use of it?

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Faith 
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Message 1277 of 1639 (780368)
03-14-2016 5:10 PM
Reply to: Message 1276 by Dr Adequate
03-14-2016 5:06 PM


Re: "Great Honor" For Trump
At the rate of burning 80 cars a day?
You aren't thinking.

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Faith 
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Message 1278 of 1639 (780369)
03-14-2016 5:13 PM
Reply to: Message 1274 by Theodoric
03-14-2016 4:30 PM


Re: "Great Honor" For Trump
YOu know perfectly well I'm not talking about a "random Muslim." There are hundreds of them burning cars in France. We KNOW it's jihad. Only the left doesn't. PC has blinded you all.
I am talking about the Roman Catholic Church, not Catholics as such. The Papacy, the seat of power where all the decrees of murder and torture originate. That church is not a CHRISTIAN INSTITUTION. I'm not talking about individuals who may or may not be true Christians.

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PaulK
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Message 1279 of 1639 (780370)
03-14-2016 5:16 PM
Reply to: Message 1277 by Faith
03-14-2016 5:10 PM


Re: "Great Honor" For Trump
Aside from jealous French anglers what's the evidence for the figure of 80 a day ? You haven't offered anything other than you thought you heard it on Christian radio.

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Faith 
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Message 1280 of 1639 (780371)
03-14-2016 5:24 PM
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03-14-2016 5:16 PM


Muslims Burning Cars in France
I did hear it on Christian radio, one of the weekend talk programs. Sorry I wasn't paying closer attention.
But here's a source that mentions the average of 80 a day:
Page not found
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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Message 1281 of 1639 (780372)
03-14-2016 5:26 PM
Reply to: Message 1265 by Theodoric
03-14-2016 3:25 PM


Re: More endorsements from the sum bunch for Trump
but it will be hard to find someone lower than Pete Rose.
OJ
Aaron Hernandez, Rae Carruth, Adam Johnson?
Unfortunately, this is pretty easy... I bet we could name a few active players who challenge Pete Rose.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King
If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? Scott Adams

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PaulK
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Message 1282 of 1639 (780373)
03-14-2016 5:34 PM
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03-14-2016 5:24 PM


Re: Muslims Burning Cars in France
Actually going one link further and quoting la figaro would have been sensible. But OK the total figure is around 80 a day. We still have no idea how many are torched by Muslims nor any connection to jihad (there are a lot of urban poor Muslims in Some French cities which may have more to do with any Muslim involvement than jihad)

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Dr Adequate
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Message 1283 of 1639 (780374)
03-14-2016 5:36 PM
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03-14-2016 5:10 PM


Re: "Great Honor" For Trump
At the rate of burning 80 cars a day?
You aren't thinking.
I am in fact thinking. Right now I'm thinking that France probably has more bored louts than it does jihadis. I'm also thinking that that would explain why they have more acts of pointless vandalism (which one associates with bored louts) than suicide bombings (which one associates with jihadis).
Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.

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Faith 
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Message 1284 of 1639 (780375)
03-14-2016 5:44 PM
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03-14-2016 5:36 PM


Re: "Great Honor" For Trump
So what is your theory why it's young Muslim louts rather than young French louts?
My guess is that it's not organized jihad but that it definitely is motivated by jihad in the minds of the perps.

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Asgara
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Message 1285 of 1639 (780376)
03-14-2016 5:45 PM
Reply to: Message 1280 by Faith
03-14-2016 5:24 PM


Re: Muslims Burning Cars in France
France’s odd New Year tradition: Counting torched cars
The infamous custom can be traced to the northeastern city of Strasbourg that straddles France’s border with Germany.
Strasbourg, which hosts thousands of tourists who flock to the city for its renowned Christmas market, first began to be blighted by holiday season vehicle arson in the late 1980s. But the phenomenon exploded to alarming levels during the 1990s.
The year 1997 proved to be decisive. That year the national media descended en mass on the bustling picturesque city following a spree of car burnings, as young vandals from rival housing estates began competing for the media spotlight.

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Faith 
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Message 1286 of 1639 (780377)
03-14-2016 5:52 PM
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03-14-2016 5:45 PM


Re: Muslims Burning Cars in France
Well, Asgara, that's a nice neat clean perfectly PC report if I ever saw one. Not one mention of Muslims.

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jar
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Message 1287 of 1639 (780378)
03-14-2016 6:12 PM
Reply to: Message 1286 by Faith
03-14-2016 5:52 PM


Re: Muslims Burning Cars in France
Thinking Islam plans a jihad of burning cars as a threat to the world.
Sheesh.
That is not paranoia; it's just stupid.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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Asgara
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Message 1288 of 1639 (780379)
03-14-2016 6:16 PM
Reply to: Message 1286 by Faith
03-14-2016 5:52 PM


Re: Muslims Burning Cars in France
Possibly because it has nothing to do with religion and everything to do with the poor protesting and revelers celebrating. It seems to be a French thing that has been happening for decades.

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PaulK
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Message 1289 of 1639 (780380)
03-14-2016 6:18 PM
Reply to: Message 1286 by Faith
03-14-2016 5:52 PM


Re: Muslims Burning Cars in France
Of course the idea that every car set alight in France has been torched by a jihadi arsonist is pretty implausible. And let's not forget the danger from jealous French anglers.
One UK fire service states that :
Every year in the UK around 93,000 road vehicles (or about 250 every day) go up in flames and about 75 people die as a result.
About 80 per cent of car fires are started deliberately to cover criminal activity or as an act of vandalism. One in 12 reported stolen vehicles will be set on fire.
Nearly half of all vehicle arson occurs in road vehicles that have previously been reported stolen.
So, about 200 a day deliberately torched to cover criminal activity or just as vandalism. Puts the French 80 a day figure into perspective.
source

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Coragyps
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Message 1290 of 1639 (780381)
03-14-2016 6:20 PM
Reply to: Message 1286 by Faith
03-14-2016 5:52 PM


Re: Muslims Burning Cars in France
I wonder if there's some reason for no mention of Muslims there. I would go so far as to wonder if Muslims were involved in car burnings there in the 90's.....
Edited by Coragyps, : No reason given.
Edited by Coragyps, : fumblefingers

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