Register | Sign In


Understanding through Discussion


EvC Forum active members: 65 (9162 total)
10 online now:
Newest Member: popoi
Post Volume: Total: 915,815 Year: 3,072/9,624 Month: 917/1,588 Week: 100/223 Day: 11/17 Hour: 0/0


Thread  Details

Email This Thread
Newer Topic | Older Topic
  
Author Topic:   The psychology of political correctness
caffeine
Member (Idle past 1024 days)
Posts: 1800
From: Prague, Czech Republic
Joined: 10-22-2008


Message 271 of 309 (779628)
03-06-2016 2:37 PM
Reply to: Message 188 by NoNukes
03-03-2016 4:54 PM


Re: A personal anecdote
Could you cite an example liberal view position that has no connection with any underlying philosophy (meaning, I assume, no connection to some larger group that is connected).
I'm not coming up with my own examples, and I want to rule out the possibility that I'm just wearing liberal blinders.
I mean, for example capital punishment, the secular nature of public education and the state provision of healthcare. On the US political spectrum, these are clearly polarised issues - archetypal liberals and conservatives will stand on opposite sides of all three issues. But this is not due, in my opinion, to a philosophical link between the three ideas - it's a contingent product of the historical development of politics in the US.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 188 by NoNukes, posted 03-03-2016 4:54 PM NoNukes has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 287 by NoNukes, posted 03-07-2016 1:21 AM caffeine has not replied

  
Faith 
Suspended Member (Idle past 1444 days)
Posts: 35298
From: Nevada, USA
Joined: 10-06-2001


Message 272 of 309 (779633)
03-06-2016 3:38 PM


Doesn't matter what I say, does it? PC is Marxist, that's its origin, I gave evidence. Nobody wants to hear it. Typical EvC but I'm used to it.

Replies to this message:
 Message 273 by Straggler, posted 03-06-2016 3:53 PM Faith has replied
 Message 279 by Tanypteryx, posted 03-06-2016 5:34 PM Faith has replied

  
Straggler
Member
Posts: 10333
From: London England
Joined: 09-30-2006


(1)
Message 273 of 309 (779635)
03-06-2016 3:53 PM
Reply to: Message 272 by Faith
03-06-2016 3:38 PM


But this "evidence" you speak of seems to consist of nothing more than referencing the 'accuracy in academia' website, which (despite the name) is like referencing Fox News as a reliable and objective source of information....
It's a self declared highly partisan opinion mongerer. You might as well have declared that your position is evidenced because Bill O'Reilley says so.
Just because someone writes their conspiracy theories down and posts them on a site they call 'accuracy in academia' doesn't make them a form of evidence.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 272 by Faith, posted 03-06-2016 3:38 PM Faith has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 274 by Faith, posted 03-06-2016 4:59 PM Straggler has replied

  
Faith 
Suspended Member (Idle past 1444 days)
Posts: 35298
From: Nevada, USA
Joined: 10-06-2001


Message 274 of 309 (779642)
03-06-2016 4:59 PM
Reply to: Message 273 by Straggler
03-06-2016 3:53 PM


Lind made the connections, I made the connections from my own experience. PC is Marxist.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 273 by Straggler, posted 03-06-2016 3:53 PM Straggler has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 275 by JonF, posted 03-06-2016 5:23 PM Faith has not replied
 Message 277 by jar, posted 03-06-2016 5:27 PM Faith has replied
 Message 283 by Straggler, posted 03-06-2016 7:33 PM Faith has not replied

  
JonF
Member (Idle past 168 days)
Posts: 6174
Joined: 06-23-2003


Message 275 of 309 (779644)
03-06-2016 5:23 PM
Reply to: Message 274 by Faith
03-06-2016 4:59 PM


You saw Marxists pushing PC? Where and when and who?

This message is a reply to:
 Message 274 by Faith, posted 03-06-2016 4:59 PM Faith has not replied

  
Tanypteryx
Member
Posts: 4344
From: Oregon, USA
Joined: 08-27-2006
Member Rating: 5.9


Message 276 of 309 (779645)
03-06-2016 5:27 PM
Reply to: Message 269 by ringo
03-06-2016 1:28 PM


Re: Definition of Political Correct
So you want us to park all but half a brain cell at the door?
Hey, it works for her.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

This message is a reply to:
 Message 269 by ringo, posted 03-06-2016 1:28 PM ringo has seen this message but not replied

  
jar
Member (Idle past 394 days)
Posts: 34026
From: Texas!!
Joined: 04-20-2004


Message 277 of 309 (779646)
03-06-2016 5:27 PM
Reply to: Message 274 by Faith
03-06-2016 4:59 PM


Faith writes:
Lind made the connections, I made the connections from my own experience. PC is Marxist.
No, not true. Lind made the assertion. You made the assertion. What is being asked for is the evidence to support the assertion.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

This message is a reply to:
 Message 274 by Faith, posted 03-06-2016 4:59 PM Faith has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 278 by Faith, posted 03-06-2016 5:31 PM jar has replied

  
Faith 
Suspended Member (Idle past 1444 days)
Posts: 35298
From: Nevada, USA
Joined: 10-06-2001


Message 278 of 309 (779647)
03-06-2016 5:31 PM
Reply to: Message 277 by jar
03-06-2016 5:27 PM


No, he proved the Cultural Marxist character of PC, and my experience in the sixties confirms his obsrvations. As I said.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 277 by jar, posted 03-06-2016 5:27 PM jar has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 281 by jar, posted 03-06-2016 6:03 PM Faith has not replied

  
Tanypteryx
Member
Posts: 4344
From: Oregon, USA
Joined: 08-27-2006
Member Rating: 5.9


Message 279 of 309 (779648)
03-06-2016 5:34 PM
Reply to: Message 272 by Faith
03-06-2016 3:38 PM


Doesn't matter what we say, does it? Christianity is Catholic, that's its origin. Once a Catholic always a Catholic.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

This message is a reply to:
 Message 272 by Faith, posted 03-06-2016 3:38 PM Faith has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 280 by Faith, posted 03-06-2016 5:51 PM Tanypteryx has replied

  
Faith 
Suspended Member (Idle past 1444 days)
Posts: 35298
From: Nevada, USA
Joined: 10-06-2001


Message 280 of 309 (779649)
03-06-2016 5:51 PM
Reply to: Message 279 by Tanypteryx
03-06-2016 5:34 PM


Gosh you're good at monkey-see-monkey-do, tit-for-tatting and other adult activities aren't you?

This message is a reply to:
 Message 279 by Tanypteryx, posted 03-06-2016 5:34 PM Tanypteryx has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 282 by Tanypteryx, posted 03-06-2016 6:15 PM Faith has not replied

  
jar
Member (Idle past 394 days)
Posts: 34026
From: Texas!!
Joined: 04-20-2004


Message 281 of 309 (779650)
03-06-2016 6:03 PM
Reply to: Message 278 by Faith
03-06-2016 5:31 PM


LOL
Sorry Faith but if there actually is evidence and not just more unsupported assertions then perhaps you can provide links to the posts where you present the evidence.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

This message is a reply to:
 Message 278 by Faith, posted 03-06-2016 5:31 PM Faith has not replied

  
Tanypteryx
Member
Posts: 4344
From: Oregon, USA
Joined: 08-27-2006
Member Rating: 5.9


(2)
Message 282 of 309 (779651)
03-06-2016 6:15 PM
Reply to: Message 280 by Faith
03-06-2016 5:51 PM


Just pointing out your BS.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

This message is a reply to:
 Message 280 by Faith, posted 03-06-2016 5:51 PM Faith has not replied

  
Straggler
Member
Posts: 10333
From: London England
Joined: 09-30-2006


Message 283 of 309 (779653)
03-06-2016 7:33 PM
Reply to: Message 274 by Faith
03-06-2016 4:59 PM


Finding someone on the internet who shares your fantasies or opinions isn't 'evidence' of those things being true by any standard of evidence I have seen anyone seriously put forward.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 274 by Faith, posted 03-06-2016 4:59 PM Faith has not replied

  
Blue Jay
Member (Idle past 2697 days)
Posts: 2843
From: You couldn't pronounce it with your mouthparts
Joined: 02-04-2008


(3)
Message 284 of 309 (779658)
03-06-2016 9:01 PM


Real political correctness
Okay, so I'm not willing to accept the Lind-Faith narrative of political correctness as an insidious extension of Marxism; but I do feel like political correctness does interfere with the priorities of academia in some major ways.
And I'm obviously not the only one. Here is a book edited by some rather big names in sociology/psychology who were getting so concerned that political correctness was functioning as an informal type of censorship in their field that they thought it necessary to write a book about it. And there are a lot of psychologists who contributed to it.
There's a preview of the book available through Google Books, but it doesn't give much of the meat. But, having just read that, there seems to be plenty of anecdotal evidence of political correctness creating an atmosphere of repression and taboo that these professionals think it is stifling their field of inquiry. Potential contributors declined to participate in the project over fears of career reprisal. Other researchers avoid politically sensitive topics out of fear of being stigmatized or otherwise harmed professionally.
I think we should all take this topic as more than just the paranoid delusion of right-wing loonies.

-Blue Jay, Ph.D.*
*Yeah, it's real
Darwin loves you.

Replies to this message:
 Message 285 by jar, posted 03-06-2016 10:03 PM Blue Jay has not replied
 Message 286 by NoNukes, posted 03-06-2016 10:54 PM Blue Jay has not replied
 Message 290 by Percy, posted 03-07-2016 8:35 AM Blue Jay has not replied

  
jar
Member (Idle past 394 days)
Posts: 34026
From: Texas!!
Joined: 04-20-2004


(4)
Message 285 of 309 (779662)
03-06-2016 10:03 PM
Reply to: Message 284 by Blue Jay
03-06-2016 9:01 PM


Re: Real political correctness
Absolutely. There are great examples out there of "Political Correct" tyranny. Consider "Pro Life" as though that was not also true of "Pro Choice" supporters.
Consider "Abortion is murder" claims.
Look at the professor fired for pointing out that Jews, Muslims and Christians worship the same god.
I continually go back over "Language in Thought and Action" and even there you can see the effects of "Politically Correct" when you look at the redaction done with each new edition.
Edited by jar, : missed a "

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

This message is a reply to:
 Message 284 by Blue Jay, posted 03-06-2016 9:01 PM Blue Jay has not replied

  
Newer Topic | Older Topic
Jump to:


Copyright 2001-2023 by EvC Forum, All Rights Reserved

™ Version 4.2
Innovative software from Qwixotic © 2024