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Blue Jay Member (Idle past 2951 days) Posts: 2843 From: You couldn't pronounce it with your mouthparts Joined: |
Hi, Coyote.
I have to say, even as a skeptic of multiregionalism, there is a lot more admixture than I would have expected. And the earlier dates in this new study do show a lot more complexity to the history of human evolution. It's certainly a wide-open question as to how much intermixing there actually was. Just how far do we think this evidence can go? For example, is it possible that modern Asians are best explained as surviving Homo erectus, with some Homo sapiens admixture? -Blue Jay, Ph.D.* *Yeah, it's real Darwin loves you.
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Coyote Member (Idle past 2359 days) Posts: 6117 Joined:
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Not sure if it can go that far, but the original multi-region hypothesis I learned in grad school a while back noted the commonality of traits from early erectus to late erectus in each of four areas of the world, with influence from those to modern populations. Shovel-shaped incisors was one example of Asian traits carried into modern populations.
But genetics will be adding a lot more clues, so stay tuned!Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge. Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein In the name of diversity, college student demands to be kept in ignorance of the culture that made diversity a value--StultisTheFool It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1 "Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity.
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1658 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
The big news from recent finds is the date and nature of the out-of-Africa movement for modern humans is being refined, and the multi-regional hypothesis is being reexamined. In other words both are right and both are incorrect ... or not completely correct. So, what we have with interbreeding is a braided or interwoven net, that all came out of Africa and then shared traits developed after leaving Africa, rather than spontaneously arising in different independent populations (which has always been where my skepticism of the multi-regional hypothesis). Enjoyby our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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Coyote Member (Idle past 2359 days) Posts: 6117 Joined:
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And this all occurred earlier than has been commonly assumed under the traditional out-of-Africa hypothesis.
Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge. Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein In the name of diversity, college student demands to be kept in ignorance of the culture that made diversity a value--StultisTheFool It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1 "Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity.
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jar Member (Idle past 92 days) Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined:
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It seems it was not just earlier but also relatively repetitive; think "Spring Break". When there was a chance to party, people partied; again and again and with "targets of opportunity".
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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Coyote Member (Idle past 2359 days) Posts: 6117 Joined: |
Right. That chart in Post 8 almost certainly under-represents the amount of hanky-panky going on.
Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge. Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein In the name of diversity, college student demands to be kept in ignorance of the culture that made diversity a value--StultisTheFool It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1 "Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity.
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Jon Inactive Member |
... rather than spontaneously arising in different independent populations (which has always been where my skepticism of the multi-regional hypothesis). I think you have the Multitegional Hypothesis confused with something else. Love your enemies!
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1658 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Perhaps you could elucidate what you think the multi-regional hypothesis says. I will admit that I never gave it much credence because of (my) perceived obstacles for developing similar characteristics in different places or some kind of emergence from a chrysalis in different places.
A pattern of interwoven or braided genealogies however does provide paths for sharing different traits across many areas creating a montage of mosaic patterns. Enjoyby our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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Jon Inactive Member
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A pattern of interwoven or braided genealogies however does provide paths for sharing different traits across many areas creating a montage of mosaic patterns. And that's exactly what MH is:
quote: This thing you're talking about involving independent evolution of identical characteristics in unconnected populations isn't MH.Love your enemies!
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Coyote Member (Idle past 2359 days) Posts: 6117 Joined:
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http://www.mirror.co.uk/...s-new-dwarf-human-species-7566527
Posting here for lack of a better spot: Mysterious new dwarf human species probed after scientists find 3 million year old skull in cave A multi-disciplinary team of scientists have discovered the skull of a weird, unique extinct human and who was found in an underground cave. With all of these finds lately, and the addition of DNA evidence going back hundreds of thousands of years, things are getting interesting!Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge. Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein In the name of diversity, college student demands to be kept in ignorance of the culture that made diversity a value--StultisTheFool It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1 "Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity. |
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