New Survey -- what is your Worldview type?

Despite the usual objections to ambiguous statements I don't know if I agree with or not, I did the test a number of times because I didn't get an email for a few of the efforts, probably entered some information wrong somewhere. Did get two basic readings though.I did it from my point of view now, and then I did it from what I think was my point of view before I was a Christian believer.Now:
Most: Traditional 9
Least: Postmodern -5Pre-Christian:
Most: Modern 6
Least: Integrative -6 ABE: Was pondering why before I was a Christian I came out so strongly against this category called "integrative" rather than "traditional" as most others here do. It's pretty clear: I had no strong anti-traditional attitudes, as about God, the traditional views just didn't enter into my world at the time, but I hated with a passion the new-agey mind-twisting pseudospritual stuff I was encountering around me.I think the test did a decent job of reflecting my views, though I might have expected "modern" to be stronger in the pre-Christian phase, and "postmodern" to be more soundly rejected in today's worldview, or even the "integrative" to be the "least" category there.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

There's an agenda behind this test. The organization that designed it wants to "evolve" people's worldviews. and although I've only read a little of their self-description it seems clear they particularly want to evolve the Traditional, the Modern and the Postmodern, and that must mean they want to evolve them into that one I hate the most, the Integrative. Bunch of manipulative busybodies. They want to cure worldview polarization and "hyperpartisanship." I haven't read far enough to know how they intend to bring this about, but it might make an interesting read.I'm quite sure they'd like to "evolve" a traditionalist like me into something else, but they also want to evolve both the Left and the Right political wings into something else. They particularly want to evolve Islam into something less dangerous.If it appeared that they had any power to do these things it would be worth learning more about them.At least one of the people involved in this identifies strongly with the Left and although he'd like to do away with the Right altogether (as so many here would also), he's trying to be practical about how it isn't going to happen, which is his motivation for trying to "evolve" both points of view. Here's his Letter to the Left.{It's interesting that there is such an open agenda to try to manipulate people's thinking. What is generally not known is how much manipulation has already been successful in this country, and particularly toward Leftist goals. Yes, conspiracies. Go watch the You Tube video of the interview of Norman Dodd who was on the Reece Committee that discovered how the big foundations like Ford and Carnegie began funding a rewriting of history for school textbooks for the purpose of favoring socialist views. The Reece Committee studied this in the 50s but the conspiracy goes back a few decades before that. TAX EXEMPT foundations by the way, which I mention because there is a thread going now on tax exempt organizations.}Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Here is what seems to be their main position paper laying out the agenda for manipulating world views to something they in their infinitely superior divine wisdom deem ideal for running the world: Premises and Principles of the Evolutionary WorldviewI'm reading the paper now and may have more to post about it later, but this seems to be a foundational statement: "Consciousness." Hm. (The term "evolution" is misapplied of course to a manipulative system but anyway)I guess you could say this is their program for the globalist movement. I'm fascinated with this. Anybody else? Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

I think most of us had the same problems you describe, but in the end somehow I think we choose the answers that are most characteristic of our overall worldview. I did the test about five times because I didn't get emails for three of them, and my guess is that I answered pretty consistently, with at most two or three differences.So I'll predict for you that when you take the test again you'll get the same Modernist-Anti-traditionalist score, with maybe a slight difference in the numbers between them.

That happened to me at first too, ringo. Then I tried it on Firefox and it worked. If you have Firefox or another browser, try that.

interesting way to sort it out. So then Daft Hippy is the "Integrative" worldview that apparently these researchers want us all to adopt.Lefty Activist must be Postmodernism?

Don't remember the questions well enough to agree or disagree, but I've been reading their position paper and the way they describe Postmodernism there should be many EvCers who score high on that. In their view it's all about caring about the environment, climate change politics, and defending the oppressed, such as against "gender discrimination" and so on, which people here defend strongly. It just must be that the modernist view comes out higher than the postmodern when they are considered in comparison.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

There is a chart of the three worldviews in the paper I'm reading that I'd like to be able to reproduce in order to discuss it, but I don't know if that's possible. Copying it doesn't get me anywhere. It's about a third of the way down in the paper, labeled "Figure 1" for anyone who could recreate it here. http://www.culturalevolution.org/docs/ICE-Philosophy.pdfEdited by Faith, : No reason given.

Thanks for the response. Does the Print Screen button do anything useful, in case this comes up again?

Thank you for posting that. Now I have to remember why I wanted it. I'm sure it will come back to me.

I didn't get to finish their basic paper yet, but I agree with you about Daft Hippy and probably Lefty Activist too.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Interesting. So you and Phat are among the most highly evolved according to their view of cultural stages. And of course I'm the least evolved with my Traditional worldview. I wonder what it means on their scheme that I used to be Modernist -- just that I regressed I suppose.By saying that place influenced your worldview do you happen to mean that you were where New Age concepts are most emphasized?How did you get zero for the worldview you identify with least? By not choosing anything? If so, why didn't you?Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Not really sure why this fascinates me so much. The idea of ranking ideas, stages of cognitive development, worldviews, has always interested me, but my reaction is so negative to this effort I'm not sure why I keep pursuing it, or the reason must be that I'd like to see this sort of research shown up as the impossible -- and arrogant, and possibly even dangerous -- thing it really is.They do seem to be trying to be neutral but there's no way anyone could be completely neutral with this kind of subject matter. They come off to me as New Ager / Leftists trying to be objective and failing at it.I think the chart shows their biases. But I'm not up to analyzing the whole thing right now. If someone else wants to, go for it.All I'd say at this point is that M L King was not postmodern, in many ways was a genuine traditionalist I think, and neither Pope Francis nor Rick Warren are traditionalists, at least not purely traditionalists. I think the Pope is definitely Daft Hippy and Warren has a lot of postmodernism in his thinking. But then I don't think the researchers understand much of anything about religion.Probably come back to this later.

I'm glad to see a strong Postmodern showing, which many here seem to share although it hasn't been coming through on the test scores.