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Author Topic:   Jesus and his sacrifice is Satan’s test of man’s morality.
ringo
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Message 316 of 478 (776084)
01-08-2016 12:03 PM
Reply to: Message 315 by Faith
01-08-2016 11:51 AM


Re: eye for eye
Faith writes:
Eye for an eye was intended as the standard of perfect justice, as I keep saying....
Yes, you keep saying that and I keep demonstrating that the bible disagrees with you. Here it is again:
quote:
Exodus 21:26-27 And if a man smite the eye of his servant, or the eye of his maid, that it perish; he shall let him go free for his eye's sake. And if he smite out his manservant's tooth, or his maidservant's tooth; he shall let him go free for his tooth's sake.
If you take your servant's eye, you give him the other one - i.e. you give him his freedom - as compensation. You don't take the malefactor's eye, you give one to the victim. Your own quote agrees with that.

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ringo
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Message 332 of 478 (776142)
01-09-2016 10:40 AM
Reply to: Message 325 by Faith
01-08-2016 7:26 PM


Re: eye for eye
Faith writes:
Compensation is one of the ways the principle of an eye for an eye can be applied.
It's the Biblical way.

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ringo
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Message 339 of 478 (776152)
01-09-2016 12:18 PM
Reply to: Message 336 by Faith
01-09-2016 12:08 PM


Re: eye for eye
Faith writes:
Compensation is one of the Biblical ways the principle of an eye for an eye can be applied.
As Jesus pointed out, punishment in the form of taking an eye for an eye is NOT one of the Biblical ways.

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ringo
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Message 355 of 478 (776227)
01-10-2016 1:29 PM
Reply to: Message 341 by Faith
01-09-2016 12:53 PM


Re: eye for eye
Faith writes:
Perhaps you didn't read the quote in my Message 315 which also isn't about taking an eye for an eye; the principle is about the punishment fitting the crime which is perfectly expressed as eye for eye.
Following the sub-thread back to Message 303, you said:
quote:
Yes it is Justice when the punishment fits the crime. That's the definition of justice. An eye for an eye.
Our justice systems don't make the punishment fit the crime. They make the punishment (if any) fit the criminal. Repeat offenders get harsher treatment, underage offenders get more lenient treatment, etc.

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ringo
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Message 389 of 478 (776348)
01-12-2016 11:23 AM
Reply to: Message 385 by Faith
01-12-2016 11:05 AM


Re: The Bible references we are talking about
quote:
Deuteronomy 7:1-2 When the LORD thy God shall bring thee into the land whither thou goest to possess it, and hath cast out many nations before thee, the Hittites, and the Girgashites, and the Amorites, and the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, and the Hivites, and the Jebusites, seven nations greater and mightier than thou; And when the LORD thy God shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor shew mercy unto them:
"Utterly destroy them" is clarified later on:
quote:
Deuteronomy 20 16-17 But of the cities of these people, which the LORD thy God doth give thee for an inheritance, thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth: But thou shalt utterly destroy them; namely, the Hittites, and the Amorites, the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites; as the LORD thy God hath commanded thee:
"Save alive nothing that breatheth."

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