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AZPaul3
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Message 301 of 2887 (774087)
12-13-2015 9:09 AM
Reply to: Message 299 by Big_Al35
12-13-2015 8:38 AM


Can't you see the double standards?
Yeah. One is reviewed, verified and reliable while the other is not.
The standards for a scientific institution are quite strict while the standards for a charlatan institute are quite a bit more relaxed. Absent, even.
I'm sure you can figure out which one is which without expending too much mental energy, but if you are in doubt, just ask.

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Big_Al35
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Message 302 of 2887 (774089)
12-13-2015 9:23 AM
Reply to: Message 298 by Percy
12-13-2015 8:33 AM


Percy writes:
Sure I did. Congratulations on believing just about anything you read, I guess.
So if an article can't even accurately report things as simple as volume and weight, are you really going to believe them
Well based on your logic I shouldn't believe you because if you can't even accurately read my links before banging on about head binding, then why would I listen to you?

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Big_Al35
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Message 303 of 2887 (774091)
12-13-2015 9:27 AM
Reply to: Message 297 by AZPaul3
12-13-2015 8:01 AM


AZPaul writes:
How would anyone know this? The data is not being released.
Would you release precious data to the globalists? Knowing full well that they will either destroy it, claim that it's a fake, discredit the source, or say it's no big deal?

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Percy
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Message 304 of 2887 (774094)
12-13-2015 9:38 AM
Reply to: Message 302 by Big_Al35
12-13-2015 9:23 AM


Big_Al35 writes:
Well based on your logic I shouldn't believe you because if you can't even accurately read my links before banging on about head binding, then why would I listen to you?
Except that you can't name anywhere I was inaccurate. You said that I hadn't bothered to look at your link when I had. I looked at the headline and the image and saw an obvious example of head binding. I didn't actually read the nonsense in your link until you indicated you were still buying the nonsense hook, line and sinker. So I read it. It's nonsense. Anyone can put words on paper, I proved that earlier with my Magic Crystal Water example. Is your knowledge of the real world really so paltry that you can't tell what fits with what you know and what doesn't?
So I ask you again. If a link can't even accurately report about simple things like weight and volume, are you actually going to believe it about parietal bones and mitochondrial DNA? Have you no ability to distinguish between sense and nonsense?
--Percy

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Tangle
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Message 305 of 2887 (774095)
12-13-2015 9:42 AM
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12-13-2015 9:27 AM


Big Al writes:
Would you release precious data to the globalists? Knowing full well that they will either destroy it, claim that it's a fake, discredit the source, or say it's no big deal?
This is a truly weird view of science.
There isn't a scientist on earth that wouldn't give an arm to be the first to scientifically find a new species of human. They'd be famous forevever. Don't you get this? It's the exact opposite of a conspiracy theory cover-up. Scientists absolutely love finding new stuff and proving old stuff wrong - they get prizes for it.
And wtf is a globalist?

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien.
Life, don't talk to me about life - Marvin the Paranoid Android
"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.

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Percy
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Message 306 of 2887 (774097)
12-13-2015 9:45 AM
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12-13-2015 9:27 AM


Bib_Al35 writes:
Would you release precious data to the globalists? Knowing full well that they will either destroy it, claim that it's a fake, discredit the source, or say it's no big deal?
The 'globalists'? Really?
Al, you're just making up stuff, now. Stick to the evidence. What evidence have they provided beyond putting words on paper? How do you know there's a single parietal bone? How do you know the mitochondrial DNA contains 'unknown mutations' that mean it's only distantly related to human beings? This makes sense to you? Get a clue, Al.
--Percy

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Dr Adequate
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Message 307 of 2887 (774098)
12-13-2015 9:47 AM
Reply to: Message 293 by Big_Al35
12-13-2015 6:12 AM


If I said elongated skulls have been found would you say that those don't exist too?
No, there are actual instances of elongated skulls, like there are of intermediate forms and like there aren't of giants.
What I would do is ask why you mention them, and why you're getting your "information" about them from a woo-woo site.

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Big_Al35
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Message 308 of 2887 (774102)
12-13-2015 10:39 AM
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12-13-2015 9:42 AM


Tangle writes:
There isn't a scientist on earth that wouldn't give an arm to be the first to scientifically find a new species of human. They'd be famous forevever. Don't you get this? It's the exact opposite of a conspiracy theory cover-up. Scientists absolutely love finding new stuff and proving old stuff wrong - they get prizes for it.
The globalists are the people who have all the money and the power (aka the elite). They decide if you get a prize or not, they decide if you get paid or not, they decide if your discovery is worthy or not. Don't you get this?

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Message 309 of 2887 (774104)
12-13-2015 10:49 AM
Reply to: Message 299 by Big_Al35
12-13-2015 8:38 AM


Can't you see the double standards?
No, I can't. Please explain in detail how that's a double standard. Dawkins will give you references to the raw data.

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Tanypteryx
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Message 310 of 2887 (774105)
12-13-2015 10:55 AM
Reply to: Message 308 by Big_Al35
12-13-2015 10:39 AM


The globalists are the people who have all the money and the power (aka the elite). They decide if you get a prize or not, they decide if you get paid or not, they decide if your discovery is worthy or not. Don't you get this?
Do you know any of their names?
They must be really busy if they do all those things.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

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Tangle
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Message 311 of 2887 (774107)
12-13-2015 10:56 AM
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12-13-2015 10:39 AM


Big Al writes:
The globalists are the people who have all the money and the power (aka the elite). They decide if you get a prize or not, they decide if you get paid or not, they decide if your discovery is worthy or not. Don't you get this?
Globalists are covering up the finding of giants?? But not covering them up well enough to stop them appearing in fake museums run by travel agents?
I hesitate to ask why a 'globalist' would do this, normally they're too busy building orbital death rays, but, hey, it's a slow day.

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien.
Life, don't talk to me about life - Marvin the Paranoid Android
"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 312 of 2887 (774108)
12-13-2015 11:29 AM
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12-13-2015 10:39 AM


The globalists are the people who have all the money and the power (aka the elite). They decide if you get a prize or not, they decide if you get paid or not, they decide if your discovery is worthy or not. Don't you get this?
And yet lots of scientists have found new species of humans, and published their work, and won public acclaim, scientific kudos, and more grant money. So if this is the sort of thing the globalist elite is trying to stop, then the globalist elite is really crap at their job.

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Message 313 of 2887 (774109)
12-13-2015 11:38 AM
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12-13-2015 10:56 AM


I hesitate to ask why a 'globalist' would do this ...
Why do aliens make crop circles? Why does Jesus appear on tortillas?

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Big_Al35
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Message 314 of 2887 (774110)
12-13-2015 11:48 AM
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12-13-2015 10:56 AM


Tangle writes:
But not covering them up well enough to stop them appearing in fake museums run by travel agents?
So you admit the fossils are genuine? Only the museum is fake but the bones are 100% bona fide.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 315 of 2887 (774111)
12-13-2015 11:50 AM
Reply to: Message 314 by Big_Al35
12-13-2015 11:48 AM


I think we're all in agreement that there are real deformed skulls. Museums are full of them.

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