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All you say in Message 4192 is that you couldn't find support for it then, either.--Percy

This morning one local talk radio show was advocating better mental health screening to lock away dangerous people before they commit mass murder. Time to state once again that psychology has no demonstrated ability to pre-identify mass murderers.The only known effective approach to reducing the incidence of mass murders, and of murders in general, is to reduce gun ownership.--Percy

I watched an interview (on local news) yesterday evening with a student who was carrying, but who could not get into the room. They interviewed several students who were veterans and who helped get others to safety.I did not see any stories or interviews with survivors that were in the classroom with the shooter.

I'm not suggesting anything complicated. If a person is on one or more of a certain list of drugs associated with acts of violence (yes I did post a whole page of information on that some time ago -- as I say, I got snark for it so I know it posted. I'll check again later) then they should not be allowed to possess a gun. Same for anyone living with them.Yes I know there is an issue of medical confidentiality. Some situations require disclosure for the sake of society.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Too right.I'm reading (on my work computer, so I can't link it yet) that according to FBI statistics, from 2011, about one quarter of firearm related deaths were homicides. The rest were suicides and accidental deaths.I invite anyone reading this thread to apply some basic math and basic logic, and work out whether arming all students and teachers would result in more firearm related deaths or fewer. You don't need degree level math for this.

How about the fact that this year has gone for 274 days and there's been 294 mass-shootings in the US.
I know that getting rid of guns is impossible but how about stopping the glorification of firearms - making them less appealing. Baby steps...

I can't help but think of the recent shooting in which (only) two journalists were killed. The father of one of the victims went on TV to deplore the American obsession with guns - then he said that his remarks might make him a target, so he'd probably have to get a gun.Guns are the solution to every problem, including the problem of guns.(Also reminds me of Homer Simpson using a gun as a TV remote control.)

Then booze must top your list.In the meantime, you'd need to persuade the GOP that background checks are a good thing at gun sales.

We could start with an ad campaign, indicating that there is an inverse correlation between the calibre of your colt, and the millimetres of your member ?

She just wants, as usual, to depict christians as martyrs. It's sad to see her use this tragedy for her own purpose.

Please provide your evidence. You keep spewing crap but there is nothing backing it up. Lithium is used to control mental health issues. Many people live very productive lives because of psychotropic drugs. You want to vilify people because they acknowledge their mental health issues and are doing what science says is what they need to do?I have no more pity left for you, just disgust.

It's amazing, just amazing, how y'all resort to ad hominems no matter what I say about anything. It's really quite funny. You don't notice how the gun-control side uses every single tragedy to promote its agenda though: Let's destroy the Second Amendment because another person went berserk.I saw the headline early today about the motive to kill Christians and waited for somebody else to post it. Waited, waited... nobody posted it so I finally did.Anyway, here's another story about it, from msn picking it up from the Washngton Post, good liberal sources to make you all happy: GOOD LIBERAL REPORT

Golly, I can't remember a time when you weren't overflowing with hatred and disgust toward me, frothing at the mouth with it. But I love you anyway, Jesus says I have to you know. I wish you nothing but health and happiness.Anyway I found a site about the drug connection, from a pro-gun site. Ooooo, just can't wait for the resounding ad hominems at this one: AMMOLAND IS THE SOURCE: Have fun.ABE: Here's another site: Psychiatric Drugs and Violence -- the Facts It includes a long list of warnings now attached to some of these drugs in various countries. Such as this one in the US: Read the list. Homicidal ideation, suicidal ideation, bizarre behavior, violence, delusions of grandeur.... attributed to these drugs. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

List is all what they call "psychotropic drugs" prescribed for various mental and emotional conditions. I'm for it myself.ABE: Let's do it this way: There's a database somewhere that notes who's on these drugs, that's available only to gun sellers and the police. Not to the government, not to private citizens. Gun sellers required by law to keep the information to themselves, just use it to deny sales when appropriate.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Of course, another way of expressing that would be to say "Let's change our minds about something some guys decided over 200 years ago."I mean, it's not like it's something out of the bible, right ?