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The Essence Of Faith & Belief.

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ringo

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Message 127 of 189 (765888)
08-07-2015 12:40 PM

Reply to: Message 119 by Phat
08-06-2015 8:40 PM

Re: What Is Truth?

Phat writes:

My ongoing point with Ringo is that one should use wisdom when giving money away.

My ongoing point is that you seem to be squandering your "wisdom" on creative ways to circumvent Jesus' instructions. Instead of trying to weasel out of doing unto others, why not just do unto others?

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ringo

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Message 137 of 189 (765981)
08-08-2015 11:55 AM

Reply to: Message 129 by NoNukes
08-07-2015 2:55 PM

Re: What Is Truth?

NoNukes writes:

What I am adamant about is that giving a panhandler pocket money in the hope that you will build up his self esteem and sense of self worth is a piss poor strategy.

How would you go about promoting self-esteem and self-worth?

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ringo

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Message 140 of 189 (766000)
08-09-2015 2:08 PM

Reply to: Message 138 by Phat
08-09-2015 1:37 AM

Re: What Is Truth?

Phat writes:

I'd try and get him/her a job, for starters. If they were hungry I would feed them.

DO you, though? How many people have asked you for spare change and how many have you found jobs for? How many have you fed?

Phat writes:

Giving money is not always the best option.

It is, however, a blanket option. You always have spare change (at least I always carry loonies and toonies so I WILL have spare change).

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Message 141 of 189 (766001)
08-09-2015 2:11 PM

Reply to: Message 139 by Faith
08-09-2015 4:02 AM

Re: What Is Truth?

Faith writes:

Feeding hungry people is one thing, building self-esteem an entirely different project.

I agree. Building self-esteem is a start toward teaching the man how to fish instead of just giving him a fish.

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