Do you think that torturing a baby is ever justified?

ringo"I'd call it what the Bible calls it - sickness."So to you, if I impose a sickness into a child for 6 days before I finally allow that sickness to kill it, it is not torture.I do not agree and you begin to shame our country with your idiocy and show of poor morals.Stop it please.Regards
DL

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PhatYet what I promote is exactly what Jesus taught.My arrogance has been fuelled by free thinking and the true knowledge that it is better thinking that what the sheep are doing.If religious problem were just at the individual level then it is quite strange that individuals created the Inquisition and not the church.Oh wait. It was the church.I guess you have also failed to see Christianity and Islam promote homophobia and misogyny.Regards
DL

NoNukesLet me explain using Christian and Jewish myths.This Gnostic Christian’s apology for calling myself God.Adam and Eve became as Gods when they gained a moral sense and no longer had their mind cut off from intelligent thought. As our primordial ancestors, we inherit that same trait even though Christianity wrongly thinks that to be evil and a fall. Retaining dominion over the earth, humans never revoked this inherited trait of a moral sense, --- and the right for man to judge himself. Jesus highlights this when he took the seat of judgement at God’s right hand.When I use terms like I am God, or you are God, I am not speaking of the traditional miracle working God of scriptures and myths. He does not exist as far as we can know as he has never made an appearance to prove his reality.What I am trying to convey to you by saying that you are a God in your own right is to be master of yourself and you need not be a sheep. You can, as Jesus says, pick up your burdens and responsibilities for your sins and follow his mind set. Be a shepherd. Lead by example.What I am trying to convey is that the only God you can ever know is the good you find within yourself. It's your ideal of God and of the Jesus or Christ mind. That is quite different from me or someone thinking they are the traditional creator God, or thinking that they are more than anyone else. Both Jesus and the Christ in these myths are for equality. Not the misogyny that we presently enjoy. That is another topic though. We are to be co-equal with Jesus.Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.Jesus would explain this concept as one just seeing that they have joined God’s Divine Council by embracing his own Christ mind. Or better said, as this is the more eastern Jesus, we activate our pineal gland and open our third eye.Matthew 6:22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.Luke 17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.Divine Council - WikipediaLet me add this link in case it is new to you.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alRNbesfXXw&feature=playe...Regards
DL

ringoSickness is a thing that happens inadvertently. When an evil mind decides to inflict it intentionally, it become torture.Water and a rag is not torture but put the two together intentionally over a face and it becomes waterboarding.If you cannot see it then go away as we are done here.Regards
DL