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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I answered you about the cake in Message 96
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Now we have revisionist law that denies God, but God won't be denied. Once a nation has honored Him, falling away is going to get severe judgment.
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subbie Member (Idle past 1284 days) Posts: 3509 Joined:
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Except you didn't.
Baking a cake isn't participating in a ceremony. The cake isn't part of the ceremony, it's part of the afterparty. Can I assume, then, that you have no biblical basis for not baking a cake?Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate Howling about evidence is a conversation stopper, and it never stops to think if the claim could possibly be true -- foreveryoung
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Percy Member Posts: 22504 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.9
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Blackstone lived a long time ago, and I didn't find anything in the Declaration of Independence that even remotely echoes what you say about common law. I found Blackstone's commentaries over at Google Books, and searches did not find the phrase "ultra vires", maybe you can help me out there.
I did find this interesting tidbit in the commentaries:
Blackstone writes: A sixth species of offenses against God and religion, of which our ancient books are full, is a crime of which one knows not well what account to give. I mean the offense of witchcraft, conjuration, enchantment, or sorcery. To deny the possibility, nay, actual existence, of witchdraft and sorcery, is at once flatly to contradict the revealed word of God, in various passages of both the old and new testament. So it looks like old Blackstone believed in witchcraft, and he wasn't much for separation of church and state. Blackstone doesn't seem to be particularly pertinent to this discussion. --Percy
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subbie Member (Idle past 1284 days) Posts: 3509 Joined:
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Faith writes: Now we have revisionist law The First Amendment isn't new. It was a tremendous, and very important, departure from then existing law, so I suppose in that sense it was revisionist. But as I have explained before, no Supreme Court majority has ever endorsed your silly interpretation.
Faith writes: Once a nation has honored Him, falling away is going to get severe judgment. Yeah, that's what you and your lot keep saying, and it keeps not happening. You sound more and more like you're whistling past the graveyard. It's kinda funny if you think about it.Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate Howling about evidence is a conversation stopper, and it never stops to think if the claim could possibly be true -- foreveryoung
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
A wedding cake would be an endorsement of the rite for which it is made. That is how Christians see it and what you think is irrelevant.
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jar Member (Idle past 423 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Faith writes: So Christians running a business are fair game, no more First Amendment for them. I wonder what the Founders would say about that.
LOL They would say exactly the same thing that they did say, that no one has a right to force their religion on another. But wait, there's more. You still have not provided any evidence that a wedding cake validates or enables or sanctions a marriage.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I'm talking about revisionism since about a century ago or even less, and I'm talking about the revision OF the First Amendment above all.
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jar Member (Idle past 423 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Faith writes: A wedding cake would be an endorsement of the rite for which it is made. That is how Christians see it and what you think is irrelevant. Again, please show how a wedding cake endorses a marriage.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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subbie Member (Idle past 1284 days) Posts: 3509 Joined: |
Still no chapter and verse, though.
I'm just taking you at your word, and your repeated critiquing of anyone who holds unbiblical views. If the cake thing isn't in the bible, then it's unbiblical, isn't it? And as I previously explained, the cake isn't part of the rite. It's for the afterparty.Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate Howling about evidence is a conversation stopper, and it never stops to think if the claim could possibly be true -- foreveryoung
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
what they said was that CONGRESS may not force religion on anybody. This ridiculous revisionism that makes one religion responsible for another is totally bogus and in fact works to deprive CHRISTIANS, oddly enough not any other religion, of our First Amendment rights.
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subbie Member (Idle past 1284 days) Posts: 3509 Joined: |
I know what you're talking about. And as I've said repeatedly, your silly interpretation is yours alone.
Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate Howling about evidence is a conversation stopper, and it never stops to think if the claim could possibly be true -- foreveryoung
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
The Trinity isn't "in the Bible" in so many words either but it is profoundly Biblical and so is any refusal to serve a gay wedding.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Mine and a few million other Christisns' and maybe even some nonChristians.
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subbie Member (Idle past 1284 days) Posts: 3509 Joined: |
The "revision" you keep kvetching about is called the Fourteenth Amendment. I guess since it's an amendment, it is a kind of revision, but I don't think that's what you're talking about.
Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate Howling about evidence is a conversation stopper, and it never stops to think if the claim could possibly be true -- foreveryoung
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