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Author Topic:   Is the Bible the inerrant word of God? Or is it the words of men?
NoNukes
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Message 2171 of 2241 (749196)
02-02-2015 9:12 PM
Reply to: Message 2170 by Faith
02-02-2015 9:10 PM


Re: An irreconcilable clash of world views
Excuse me????? The verses I put up are understood to explain the nature of the heathen "gods." What is your problem?
I don't have a problem. I read the wrong post. Unfortunately you read a message that I was in the midst of correcting.

Je Suis Charlie
Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass

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NoNukes
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Message 2173 of 2241 (749200)
02-02-2015 9:28 PM
Reply to: Message 2163 by Golffly
02-02-2015 3:59 PM


Re: An irreconcilable clash of world views
Like I said you made it up.
However well, or unwell sourced Faith's interpretation, it is pretty evident that she did not make it up. Faith did not invent the Trinity or demons.
Surely you've heard most of this fundy stuff yourself prior to ever encountering Faith. What is the basis for your accusations that she is making stuff up?

Je Suis Charlie
Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass

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NoNukes
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Message 2180 of 2241 (749261)
02-03-2015 1:19 PM
Reply to: Message 2177 by Golffly
02-03-2015 9:40 AM


Re: An irreconcilable clash of world views
So before Trinity was made up, the poor guys reading the bible thought "us" meant multiple gods.
I'm not sure it was ever really clear what the plurality in Genesis meant. In the early Genesis, the we, our, us, certainly is addressed to entities all on the same team. But I don't see much evidence of the "we" stuff outside of the creation story in Genesis.
As for the Trinity. It is wholly made up by people who are not described in the Bible. If I had to guess at the reasons, I would suggest that it was done to address accusations from Jews and others that Christianity was poly-theistic and did not properly worship Yahweh. The doctrine is contradicted by Jesus own words.

Je Suis Charlie
Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass

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