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I put GOD's worldview ahead of everything else. It's Biblical, PK: That's how I read that discussion at the link.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

The actual evidence supports my version of the Creation model just fine.

• Accounts for the huge percentage of junk DNA in the genome of most Species as due to death over time, and especially to the massive death at the huge bottleneck of the Flood;
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• Accounts for the invisibility of the bottleneck in today's genome by the postulated greater genetic variability in earlier times so that a bottleneck doesn't produce the drastic condition of fixed loci for the most characteristic traits as it would now;
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• Accounts for the low percentage of heterozygosity in the genome now as opposed to the postulated greater percentage at the time of the Flood and certainly in the pre-Flood world, as due to the gradual genetic diminishment over time as phenotypes split off into their own separate populations. Each new isolated population does have reduced genetic diversity compared to the whole population. Yes, it has to.

There are probably items I've forgotten to include here.ABE: OK here's another:

• Accounts for the fossil record with its amazing variety of life forms that are related to forms today but nevertheless quite different.

/ABEAll of the above would naturally be the case based on the Creation model and none of it violates the actual facts observed today. (You've never proved, despite trying, that genetic diversity EVER increases in any new population except one formed from hybrids or the re-introduction of gene flow. You assert it but can't prove it), NEVER from isolation of subpopulations. and such isolation would have been the most common situation as the animals dispersed in the years following the Flood. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

I don't see it as exalting anybody or feeding anybody's pride, and I'm afraid that's just another way spiritual discernment is needed for a right assessment of biblical revelation.Instead of arguing about all this you could consider it might be true and get yourself born again. That way you'd have inside knowledge.

So the Protestant Reformation was really a cult? Imagine that, I would have thought it was the recovery of pristine Christianity myself, as it is normally understood to be by the biggest names in Christianity.

I don't read EFT, read enough at one time to know we're on the same side and that's it. Seems to me you should do the inviting.

That's fine but it doesn't change anything I said.abe: The Protestant Reformation is still one of the biggest events in western history and dominated the west politically and culturally until very recently as well as being the reason for the diminishment of Rome's political power in the west.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Are you unaware of what the "us" refers to, or protesting it?

There's really no problem. Since God is here identifying Himself in the "us" this can only refer to the Trinity, Father, Son and Holy Spirit, all of them God, three Persons all of whom are the one God.All the other gods referred to in the Bible are created beings, fallen angels or demons: All these references are to the many demon gods, how many could be billions, all the angels that fell with Lucifer, or it could be a select number that took the role of "gods" among people.

There is one God. One uncreated Being who created everything else.

There is no "mention" of Trinity anywhere in the Bible, it's implied in many descriptions of God nevertheless, and I certainly didn't "make up" this understanding of the "us" in Genesis, it's included in every discussion of the Trinity. Same with the demons, I certainly didn't make that up either.see Leviticus 17:7 And they shall no more offer their sacrifices unto devils, after whom they have gone a whoring. This shall be a statute for ever unto them throughout their generations.and Deuteronomy 32:17 They sacrificed unto devils, not to God; to gods whom they knew not, to new gods that came newly up, whom your fathers feared not.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

See previous post where I've quoted the verses that explain that the "gods" are devils, otherwise known as demons.

Sorry, it's standard understanding that those references clarify what the references to "gods" mean.It's also said in the NT, in 1 Corinthians 10:20 But I say, that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to devils, and not to God: and I would not that ye should have fellowship with devils.

When I say "standard understanding" I mean at least within the circle of Protestant-Evangelical churches that came down from the Reformation, but it's probably also standard in the RC church as well; the fallen angels or demons or devils ARE the gods worshipped in all the natural human-invented religions of mankind.

The arrogance of the ignorant is beyond comprehension these days. You come along and tell the people who revere the Bible and have interpreted it consistently for hundreds of years that they're wrong, you tell me I "made it up" and you just go on with your weird stuff no matter what.Now you are going on about how this or that occurred before or after something else which in your frame of reference is another "contradiction" I guess, but it really makes no sense. The gods of Egypt are also demon gods, why wouldn't they be? Scripture says God, the uncreated Creator God, is greater than all the lesser gods of the various nations, which are later in the Pentateuch explained to be demons. It's perfectly consistent, it takes a strange mentality to make something else of it. Scripture EXPLAINS the gods as demons later on in the text, but the explanation applies to ALL the gods wherever described.
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Excuse me????? The verses I put up are understood to explain the nature of the heathen "gods." What is your problem?