Marxism vs Socialism vs Communism vs Totalitarianisms

Such as the belief that communism is anti-god or godless, when many communes were religious organizations.Enjoy

And when it says, "Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me," that sounds a lot closer to communism than capitalism to me. But I'm sure the apologists have an out there, too.

Indeed. And how can you not extend that to your neighbour's well-being?

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Leviticus 19:18 Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the Lord.

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Matthew 22:37-39 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

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The Great Socialist and His Son agreed that we should take care of our neighbours the same as we take care of ourselves or our children - protecting them not only from physical danger but also from hunger, disease, etc.

And your purpose for telling us this is....? Are you somehow proving that jars perception of logic, reason, and morality are superior to that of Jesus Christ? Are you for Him or against Him, jar. What exactly is it that you preach here?

I don't preach anything Phat, just report what the authors of the New Testament stories wrote.It has absolutely nothing to do with being for or against anyone but rather honestly reporting what was actually written.The Bible does support totalitarianism. That is simply a fact.Or should I do like the apologists and make up shit that is not in the story to make it mean something other than what was written?Have you ever actually read the Bible Phat?

Would you agree that unrestrained capitalism is also a failed social and economic system that is not workable on a national level?And that any restraint on capitalism to make it a better social and economic system would be taking some tenets from socialist thinking?Just curious ...Enjoy

Oh but I do, and have said so many times.

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Fair enough. Perhaps each of us here--on this forum---should ask ourselves if we want to report everything or only report what it is we want others to read?Personally, I report on Jesus divinity, whereas you report on his humanity...thus we differ.

Not quite Phat; I simply report what the Bible says.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMLgEnDGkG4

and I would argue that you demean Jesus through your selective reportsWe humans cannot be better than He is even if we might behave better than he did while human...which is quite frankly a difficult charge in and of itself. It was not His fault that the alabaster oil was "wasted" on him.You say He was a failed Messiah because you have the same spirit of stupor in your thinking that the Jews themselves have to this day.You claim to be a Creedal Christian. Why cant you read beyond the fact that he was made man?Who Is Jesus today?

Phat asks A wonderful mythical figure that all of us on earth need to continue to learn about and incorporate into our every day life.

HUH? Why can't we be better than Jesus was?What excuse did Jesus give in the story?I say Jesus is a failed messiah (not was a failed messiah) because none of the requirements of being a messiah, Jewish or Christian, have been fulfilled. I have no idea what that even means or how that could even be answered by anyone.What does any of this have to do with the topic beyond what I pointed out; that Jesus lived in a Communistic society and yet did not live by the economic system instead choosing his personal comfort over the communal needs.

Unless they are muslim or socialists or etc etc etc Shown by whom? Did the Kibbutzes in Israel end in violent destruction of the Israeli society? How about the Christian communes?What leads to violent destruction of societies and suppression of dissidents is oppressive government either by dictators or oligarchs, and what you rail against as Marxism and Communism was in reality oligarchies that usurped governments.And oligarchy run capitalism is just as bad as oligarchy run pretend communism, because it is the totalitarian oligarchy that is evil.Curiously capitalism leads to large international corporations that are oligarchies run like feudal kingdoms that trample on the nations\states regardless of political format.The purpose of free government is to serve the people, the purpose of unbridled corporations is to make the rich richer at the expense of the people. These are not compatible purposes, and the question becomes which is more important to you -- free government or the corporate oligarchy that results from unbridled capitalism.The money in politics? Capitalist Oligarchs. The economic failure? Capitalist Oligarchs. Bailout of the rich instead of the people? Capitalist Oligarchs.Using communism as a red flag to distract you from reality? Capitalist Oligarchs.Using fear to distract you from reality so you vote for more oppression? Capitalist Oligarchs.You have the wrong bogeyman in your closet.EnjoyEdited by RAZD, : qs