Corporatocracy Wins Again

You keep telling yourself that.And other people will keep making your life better.

Be sure and get back to us when your situation gets better.In the meantime, maybe try to acquire the serenity to accept the things you cannot change, the courage to change the things you can and the wisdom to know the difference.

Other than than a couple of short term stints I've always either been a contractor or a salaried employee. I am currently doing contract work of various kinds and at various rates.I suspect that the Amazon workers are also contractors. However unlike you, they are not in position to be able to dictate their contract terms.

Really? Because it looks a lot like belittling people who are forced to be in a situation they don't want to be in and calling it fun. Your probably the guy stealing magazines out of my barber shop who acts surprised when I show him the door.

There may be particulars of which I am unaware, but I see no fault with the employer in this situation and all gripe/piss on the part of the employees.Caveat Emptor.I cannot believe that an employee could not have noticed this "stand in line unpaid" situation on their very first day on the job. If you feel this is so totally unfair then you do not have to return for a second day.Kind of like those sites that warn "By use of this site you agree to our terms and conditions." If you show up for a second day of work then you have agreed to their terms and conditions.What this action says is after so many years, you quit, and now you want back-pay against a procedure you already agreed to? Stuff it.

I think an equally valid approach is to ask to be paid for your time and to not to drop the request just because the boss says no. Although the court ruled against employers in this particular situation, other courts have found against employers in cases not hugely different.If that fails, then quit.

I can agree to that. Just be careful in "Right To Work" states (which actually means you have no right to work) because The Man can boot your ass for any reason whatsoever.

That's not what "Right to Work" means at all.What you are talking about is "at will" employment, which means either party can sever the relationship at any time and for any reason. And people can still enter contracts which ignores "at will"."Right to Work", on the other hand, deals specifically with unions, and allows people to work in a union shop without being forced to join the union or pay dues. Employers can then hire people who do not join the union and, over time, decrease the percentage of the workforce that is unionized to the point of being ineffective. It is much more sinister than what you describe as an employer simply being able to fire folks on a whim.JonEdited by Jon, : No reason given.

I'll confess to belittling people who whine about every little convenience in life. A little belittling might serve to embiggen them. I haven't been in a barber shop since 1972.

Do you feel better laughing about people getting robbed by multi-billion-dollar companies?

Yeah, making me stand in line is one thing, but forcing me to join a union? Fuck that!Are you talking about the Teamsters?

In Texas (abe: most of my working life was there) the "Right to Work" law contains both. Sinister, insidious, perfidious are good words to use for the "Right to Work" laws. You have no "right" to work. All employment power is with the manager (once the union dies).This is an excellent example of the practical and profitable benefits you can enjoy when you buy a legislature. Yeah, they take a lot of maintenance but they are acquisitions no enterprise should do without.Edited by AZPaul3, : abe

Nobody's getting robbed. They're just losing a few minutes of their time - and if they're anything like the people I see every day, they're using that time to check their messages.