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Adminnemooseus
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Message 121 of 129 (74306)
12-19-2003 3:09 PM


Interesting, but off-topic
I'll start a "I was wrong" type topic, for everyone to lists their "brushes with stupidity".
Stand by, while I try to come up with a little better topic title.
Adminnemooseus
Edit - OK, it's at http://EvC Forum: A place for 'I was wrong' admissions/confessions -->EvC Forum: A place for 'I was wrong' admissions/confessions
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Itachi Uchiha
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Message 122 of 129 (74309)
12-19-2003 3:13 PM


It always nice to admit that you made a booboo no matter what side of the field youre on. Thats being honest.

Itachi Uchiha
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Message 123 of 129 (74311)
12-19-2003 3:20 PM
Reply to: Message 109 by gene90
12-19-2003 12:45 PM


Re: an introductory article on the grand canyon from the creationist side
"Hey Jazzlover,
Rather than cutting and pasting from YEC sites why don't you try using your own arguments? For example you could piece together your scenario of Grand Canyon formation and use the article as a reference. That way I could debate *you* instead of Austin, who is not present here to argue with us."
My bad for that but first of all i'm no expert here in physics geology,biology so I find it better pasting someone who knows what hes saying. When I post Them it is because I agree with him. Its some sort of "I couldnt have said it better myself" thing. I'm just a simple engineer who knows a little of physics and geology etc so I can apply it to create a better infrastructure for the citizens but I am no doctor in the theory of relativity or nothing like that. Iguess i'm here to defend my faith but my arguments are spiritual not scientific. I know you didnt get it
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Message 124 of 129 (74312)
12-19-2003 3:21 PM


Time to wrap up and close this topic?
It's been a pretty messy affair. Even if there is somewhere to go with it, perhaps it would be best to reload and start over in a new topic.
John Paul (or others?) - Any objections to closing this one down?
Please do not respond to this message, if you support closing this topic.
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Message 125 of 129 (74314)
12-19-2003 3:29 PM
Reply to: Message 123 by Itachi Uchiha
12-19-2003 3:20 PM


Two Points
Iguess i'm here to defend my faith but my arguments are spiritual not scientific. I know you didnt get it
Exactly, some of us on the science side in fact, "don't get it". Others do however and are just as much believers as you are.
Most (maybe all) of us don't want to argue with your faith. Our disagreement is with the so called creation "scientists" who want to corrupt the educational system in support of thier beliefs. It is only the science side that we are concerned about.
...so I find it better pasting someone who knows what hes saying.
But since you are, as you say, not an expert, how do you know that they know what they are saying.
If you ask around here or do a little research you will find that the sites and "experts" you might be using are very frequently wrong about the basic facts that they use and, in some cases, are lying.
If you want to take things on faith by all means, do so. However, the nature of the universe around you isn't something that needs to be, or should be, taken on faith. Some of what you are told to take on faith about the natural world (NOT the supernatural) is simple wrong.

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Message 126 of 129 (74322)
12-19-2003 3:50 PM
Reply to: Message 107 by NeilUnreal
12-19-2003 12:38 PM


Right Now!
Mr. Unreal: I hope you're happy now. I've had this lyric goin' 'round in my head for three hours now:
"Come on people now, smile on your brother
Everybody get together
got to love one another
Right Now
Right Now
Right Now!"
Peace, and good fortune, Neil

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Itachi Uchiha
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Message 127 of 129 (74324)
12-19-2003 3:52 PM
Reply to: Message 125 by NosyNed
12-19-2003 3:29 PM


Re: Two Points
"But since you are, as you say, not an expert, how do you know that they know what they are saying."
I said i'm not an expert but i have my foundations. How else could i design an efective structural truss for building if im not familiar with basic mechaninc laws. The same goes for a waterway system if i dont have a clues about bernoulli and fluid mechanincs i'm gonna get my license rrevoked.
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Itachi Uchiha
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Message 128 of 129 (74328)
12-19-2003 3:59 PM
Reply to: Message 125 by NosyNed
12-19-2003 3:29 PM


Re: Two Points
"If you want to take things on faith by all means, do so. However, the nature of the universe around you isn't something that needs to be, or should be, taken on faith. Some of what you are told to take on faith about the natural world (NOT the supernatural) is simple wrong."
Faith? dont you need that for believing your theories. i wasnt present at the day of creation but i have a personal relationship with the creator and thats good enough evidence for me. As for you, nobody was there either when the big bang or whatever your theory of beggining was. neither do you have a written account from anybody from the stone age. I think you have more faith than i do
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Message 129 of 129 (74329)
12-19-2003 4:06 PM
Reply to: Message 124 by Adminnemooseus
12-19-2003 3:21 PM


Re: Time to wrap up and close this topic?
Topic has run it's course. Closing down.
As most always, I post the links to gripe to, below.
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