Register | Sign In


Understanding through Discussion


EvC Forum active members: 45 (9208 total)
1 online now:
Newest Member: anil dahar
Post Volume: Total: 919,513 Year: 6,770/9,624 Month: 110/238 Week: 27/83 Day: 3/3 Hour: 0/2


Thread  Details

Email This Thread
Newer Topic | Older Topic
  
Author Topic:   Scientific Utility and Explanation Power of ID
RAZD
Member (Idle past 1665 days)
Posts: 20714
From: the other end of the sidewalk
Joined: 03-14-2004


Message 3 of 6 (742948)
11-25-2014 4:40 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by DampeS8N
11-25-2014 2:13 PM


welcome
Hi DampeS8N and welcome to the fray
Can someone explain to me what predictions and explanations ID offers?
As far as I know there are no testable predictions that offer an alternative to evolution.
Basically they say that IF we don't know how some process evolved that THEN we need to consider ID ... rather faulty logic.
For example, how does ID account for the barrier between supposed Macro and Micro evolution? If things change, and we know they change, what mechanism prevents those changes from resulting in new "kinds" over time? There must be some mechanism preventing these changes from stacking up to the point where an Ape becomes a Man.
Which is similar to saying that after "X" throws of a coin that it can no longer turn up heads.
What can I learn about the future from ID? Will it help me create new drugs because I understand the above limitation? Can I plan how to cycle antibiotics around the imposed limitations of different kinds of bacteria?
Where are the lines between kinds? At what objective boundary can we place the barrier between kinds?
These seem like fundamental questions for ID to answer if it makes the assertion that life can change as we observe but that it can't change on the macro scale. After all, changes on the small scale piling up to create larger scale changes would be the base assumption given that life changes at all.
Can someone more versed in ID theory speak to my points?
Well all I can offer is my take on the use and abuse of ID: Is ID properly pursued?
Enjoy.
... as you are new here, some posting tips:
type [qs]quotes are easy[/qs] and it becomes:
quotes are easy
and you can type [qs=RAZD]quotes are easy[/qs] and it becomes:
RAZD writes:
quotes are easy
or type [quote]quotes are easy[/quote] and it becomes:
quote:
quotes are easy
also check out (help) links on any formatting questions when in the reply window.
For other formatting tips see Posting Tips
For a quick overview see EvC Forum Primer
If you have problems with replies see Report Discussion Problems Here 3.0

we are limited in our ability to understand
by our ability to understand
RebelAmerican☆Zen☯Deist
... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ...
to share.


Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)

This message is a reply to:
 Message 1 by DampeS8N, posted 11-25-2014 2:13 PM DampeS8N has not replied

  
Newer Topic | Older Topic
Jump to:


Copyright 2001-2023 by EvC Forum, All Rights Reserved

™ Version 4.2
Innovative software from Qwixotic © 2024