Homosexuality and Evo, Creo, and ID

I'm sorry, I misspoke, those states VOTED FOR the gay marriage ban.

Most Americans Back Supreme Court on Gay Marriage Including in the Affected StatesPoll: Support for gay marriage hits high after rulingA new ABC News / Washington Post Poll shows 58 percent of the country supports the right of same-sex couples to wedCan you find a recent national poll with a majority against gay marriage? What, I'm going to burn in a hotter hell for more eternity because I love my neighbor as myself?Seriously, Faith, what are you going to threaten us with? According to your theology, I'm already going to suffer infinite pain for all eternity just for not subscribing to your theological beliefs. There's nothing extra that can happen to me for being kind to people, is there? Well, as soon as the guy holding the gun to your head goes home.Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.

Sorry Faith but I am a Christian as are the people I mentioned. YOU can call them antichrist apostates but that does not change the fact that they are still in the Apostolic Succession.AbE:
Not just Christians Faith but Protestant Christians.
/AbE:You do know what the apostolic successions is do you not?Your silly assertions have little support in reality.Edited by jar, : see AbE

Yeah, well, the times they are a changin'

And then a few years later they vote to lift the ban. And then it comes up again & the whole thing is never settled.How do you avoid that, Faith? If we leave it to popular vote, when does it end?

I don't understand your point. If the people voted, the court had no right to overturn it. This is supposed to be a nation of, by and for the people, so it has been said. Apparently no longer.The polls are not the people voting. If the people vote for a ban on gay marriage it should be allowed to stand because it's the people's will. If some time later they want to put the question up for vote again then whatever the people say should stand at that time, whether they affirm or deny the former vote. And a poll can't be taken as the final authority on what the people think. Polls are often wrong.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Popular opinion does not over rule the Constitution.

So there is no point in having a vote at all, we should just have a tyrant over us who makes all the laws. Sounds like that's your idea of the Constitution.And by the way Nazi leaders used propaganda to create the will of the people.

Really it comes down to the fact that you all regard homosexuals as a legitimate minority group protected by the First Amendment and I don't.You also don't seem to care that Christians were originally the concern of the First Amendment, THE group that had been oppressed and persecuted in Europe and founded the nation on the concept of liberty and fought for that liberty in the Revolutionary War and wanted that liberty guaranteed in the Constitution of the new nation. You'll happily trash our rights for those of this other group you want to see protected.Be that as it may, in order for me to persuade you that gay marriage should not be supported I'd first have to prove that America was founded on Biblical principles, which I believe but couldn't possibly prove to any of you after a century of propaganda that claims otherwise.SO there is no point in continuing to pursue this discussion.Cheers. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

I thought everyone was protected by the First Amendment. If you disagree, could you give us a list of the people who aren't? And, also, THE group that had been doing the oppressing and persecuting. And then went to America so that they could hang Quakers in accordance with the dictates of their conscience.

Checks and balances: The Devil's handiwork.You vote for legislators. Along with legislators you vote for the head of the executive. They appoint the judicial. The judicial branch can, indeed must, review the work of the legislature to ensure it is consistent with the constitution and other laws. Sometimes you'll agree with them, sometimes you won't. Everyone does that.What the Nazis did was destroy the liberal (but potentially flawed) constitution to give them powers to do whatever they wanted. The lesson here is, the constitution is good but possibly flawed. It's probably a good idea to keep the thing around, and change it using it's own rules for being changed. If you reject the judicial branch, the system has no checks on it, which can be exploited by the executive to 'enable' itself to ignore the legislative: aka dictatorship.

Not protected AS homosexuals, since homosexual acts were regarded as criminal. Even Jefferson and Washington treated them as criminal. Of course giving them rights over the hated Christians is just being "progressive" today. How far we have come slidden from the original conception of the American "experiment." O brave new world. Well, it's yours now. Down to the pit we go.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

There is your problem you have no idea how the US government works. I think you need to take a civics class.Do you think people in the south voted to overturn segregation? Slavery was the peoples will in certain states too.

So, the majority of people can vote to enslave the minority (any minority)????What country are you from?

Take a basic civics course. You obviously do not understand what the US Constitution says. The people nor legislatures, nor the executive can implement laws that the judiciary determines are unconstitutional. You do not get to decide what is unconstitutional, the courts do.ABE Churches use propaganda to create the will of the people now.Edited by Theodoric, : No reason given.