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Colbard
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Message 111 of 177 (736284)
09-06-2014 11:36 AM
Reply to: Message 110 by jar
09-06-2014 10:21 AM


Re: try using english
No, I don't have any evidence for you.

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Colbard
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Message 112 of 177 (736285)
09-06-2014 11:42 AM
Reply to: Message 109 by Percy
09-06-2014 9:42 AM


Re: Discussing hollow earth theory and other nonsense
It's safe to come to a thread and not post any ideas isn't it?
It's much easier to come empty handed and have a go at whatever someone else is saying. You hang around places where you disagree with whatever, just looking for conflict? What for?

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Colbard
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Message 115 of 177 (736333)
09-07-2014 1:09 AM
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09-06-2014 12:18 PM


Re: Discussing hollow earth theory
You are very kind and informative.
Love the old English sounding "fludde" !

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Colbard
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Message 116 of 177 (736334)
09-07-2014 1:27 AM
Reply to: Message 114 by ringo
09-06-2014 2:25 PM


Re: Discussing hollow earth theory and other nonsense
I did not think that a different view would cause such a kerfuffle.
I don't feel threatened by another person's view because I can have my own, and I expect others to be the same.
But I guess you must have your reasons for coming in by numbers and jumping on someone who has an opinion that disagrees with common thinking.
The things I have posted cannot be found in creation websites.
I expect that if I have discovered something, that it can be verified by scientific data, such as provided by the previous post, but I may not go along with the conclusions from that data. For eg, the layer under the crust can have the properties of magma, without it being magma.

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Colbard
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Message 125 of 177 (740032)
10-31-2014 1:01 AM


Since I quit on the thread, there's not much of a talk going on between yourselves on the topic, going by the number of posts I thought you were really interested,
Do you miss having someone to slap down? Or does your own science bore you?
Edited by Colbard, : No reason given.
Edited by Colbard, : spelling

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Colbard
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Message 129 of 177 (740157)
11-02-2014 1:34 AM
Reply to: Message 128 by Astrophile
11-01-2014 6:13 PM


Re: Not hollow, but...
Astrophile writes:
If I belonged to the seed of Israel, I should find this rather worrying.
The seed of Israel are those who belong by faith not necessarily through inheritance.
It is no worry, because the interior of the earth cannot and will not be discovered. It can be known about, as in the past, but never uncovered or discovered.
The best way to prove that wrong is the be able to discover it, which will never happen.

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Colbard
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Message 132 of 177 (740999)
11-08-2014 9:47 PM
Reply to: Message 130 by edge
11-02-2014 10:57 AM


Re: Not hollow, but...
Edge writes:
And?
Do you have a point here?
The interior of the earth cannot be fathomed or discovered, but only theorized about.

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Colbard
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Message 133 of 177 (741003)
11-08-2014 10:12 PM
Reply to: Message 131 by jar
11-02-2014 6:27 PM


Re: Not hollow, but...
Jar writes:
Is this more of your NewSpeak?
Why can't the interior of the earth be discovered?
Firstly because according to the text given earlier, the security of God's people is dependent on the promise that if the interior of the earth can be discovered then the relationship is over. My bet is that God will not call His relationship off, so men will never uncover the foundations of the earth.
From what I have studied in ancient science, the interior of the earth does not consist of rocks and lava, even though those things occur in the crust of course.
They seemed to know about something else - a type of antimatter you might say, which does away with the need for a rock interior, and can be just as strong if not stronger than materials as we know them.
I know it sounds bizarre. but there you go. But according to this if we dug down far enough, the end of the drills would disappear, without breaking or melting, just a clean mop-up of material by the force inside. Which is what has been happening.
At this depth, we also find that sound and earthquake waves are mysteriously accelerated, as if the waves have hit a very solid surface, even more solid than the crust, rather than a semi molten state. then below that strange layer called the MOHO, we have the waves behaving like the earth is molten. But it does not have to be anything inside, except what the Bible describes as the "waters." the very force mentioned in Genesis. Not literal water, but something that acts like it, heavy dark mobile. One of the forces used to create the universe.
Just to sound even more bizarre, this force called the waters, if you were able to get into it, you would be annihilated, and yet your energy spread out into practical infinity.
That's why the ancients called it the shadow of death, or the underworld in the later religions. And still later religions called it hell, that's where the hell theory comes from - pagan teachings. But it is not true. Its just a way that God has made celestial bodies, like the planets and stars.
Now, science has trouble with sizes and related masses, and so in many cases have hollowed planets out to make sense of the gravitational laws.
Say for instance, Saturn. They say that it is so light that it would float in water.
That's how much they have had to hollow out this planet in theory.
if not it would not stay in orbit.

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Colbard
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Message 136 of 177 (741009)
11-08-2014 10:41 PM
Reply to: Message 135 by Coyote
11-08-2014 10:15 PM


Re: Not hollow, but...
Coyote writes:
We can gather data through a variety of methods, and then make attempts to analyze and organize that data.
Why do you say we can't do all of this?
The data is interesting and true, the conclusions from that data point to what is current theory, although we don't know for sure about what temperatures may be down there, unless we attribute the evidence for a softer state inside the earth to molten rock.

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Colbard
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Message 137 of 177 (741010)
11-08-2014 10:44 PM
Reply to: Message 134 by jar
11-08-2014 10:13 PM


Re: Where's the beef?
Jar writes:
I've asked you before and you have never provided an answer.
You must have been writing this while my previous post was on the way.
So what do you think?

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Colbard
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Message 139 of 177 (741021)
11-09-2014 6:56 AM
Reply to: Message 138 by jar
11-08-2014 10:51 PM


Cat in the sock draw
Jar writes:
I think your point is just more nonsense.
Why can't we know temperatures or the properties of matter?
Well according to the data it is what we predict, but the data does not prove what the temperatures are down there, it mainly reveals that the rock is plastic, rather than solid, a condition which comes about by molten rock. But the forces described by the ancients may also bring back the same readings/data.
While there is no feasible reason for the MOHO layer, the model of ancient times predicts it as well as the interior acting like it is filled with liquid, as well as the ringing bell effect the earth has during earthquakes.
If the earth's crust was sitting on top of semi molten or plastic rock, then the sound and shock waves would not propagate like they do in a hollow object, like a bell. The plastic rock would quell the waves. And yet this bell effect takes place, as well as the other effects we associate with plastic rock.
So the current theory about the earth's interior, provides answers to some of the data, but not all of it.
Edited by Colbard, : because I can

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Colbard
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Message 145 of 177 (741260)
11-10-2014 6:51 PM
Reply to: Message 140 by jar
11-09-2014 8:16 AM


Re: Cat in the sock drawer
Jar writes:
So you admit that we have partial answers, but you claim we cannot know even more in the future?
Why do you claim we cannot know about the center of the earth?
We can know, but not uncover or discover. You know there's a fire behind the door but you can't open the door without a blast that will kill you.
according to the Bible and the ancients the interior annihilates whatever comes into contact.
So why does not the crust get consumed? because the crust is made of the opposite force that's within the earth, which conserves energy. These two forces are balanced at their proximity to each other, just like they are in molecules.
The effect of the "waters" inside the earth causes the opposite force the "light" to become attracted and concentrated around the "waters." This forms a gradient of energy from outer space (about 2 light years out) to the base of the earth's crust.
This gradient has some effects one of which is gravity.

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Colbard
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Message 148 of 177 (741263)
11-10-2014 7:14 PM


Ancient science on the interior
The two forces mentioned have a place beneath the crust where they are distinctly divided, but some of the effects created by their attempted interactions, is a layering effect, as well as vertical convolutions. The layering effects reach below the crust, through the crust, and out into our atmosphere as well as outer space.
We can see this effect in the clouds which form at specific heights and distinct levels, unlike a steamed up kitchen which would happen by the scientific model of weather.
The vertical convolutions and columns reach right into the interior of the earth, and are responsible for the creases in the crust, deep crevices in the ocean etc.
Our 'pictures' and models of the earth's interior, show even layers all throughout the globe beneath, major layers and minor ones, as well as deep breaks or spikes that are wider at the surface and narrower down into the earth.
We also have a lot of energy being released from out of the ground, in some places higher levels than what is radiated onto the earth from outer space. Due to the spikes and layering these measurements will differ according to the visible landscape above.
Places where the "waters' are prominent will produce high amounts of A and B particles to be released. places where the columns or spikes are will absorb a lot of particles from outer space.
The Waters are responsible for releasing energy, which causes earthquakes and melting rocks. The Light causes energy to be retained, causing things like low pressure systems and rising moisture.
The sun is constructed by the same forces. Where the Light enters, there are sun spots and fissures or creases in the surface, and where the Waters are active, there are flares and flames. The sun also demonstrates layering in the space above the surface. A flare will rise and return to the surface, and there are sometimes layers at the same height in the up and down drafts that extinguish the flame and or lessen the temperatures.

  
Colbard
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Message 149 of 177 (741264)
11-10-2014 7:20 PM
Reply to: Message 147 by JonF
11-10-2014 6:58 PM


Stating the obvious
Jon F writes:
O-O-O-KAY, we're doing the full-bore gibberish. (Backing away slowly).
No one is disagreeing with what has been observed. Your posts do not contradict what I am saying. But you are so busy cussing me over definitions that you missed that I agree with you. Just chill out.

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Colbard
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Message 150 of 177 (741265)
11-10-2014 7:37 PM
Reply to: Message 146 by jar
11-10-2014 6:55 PM


Consuming interior
Jar writes:
But the crust does get consumed regularly. There is more than ample evidence for that. And we can even observe that happening.
So again, why can't the interior of the earth be discovered?
The Bible says about the interior, "it is turned up as with fire"
Religionists have immediately jumped onto that pagan wagon and gone the whole way calling it hell fire. But it says "AS with fire" in many other places it says that it is frozen or cold and so forth. That's because the energy or heat has been fully consumed or released into itself or back into the earth. Part of it will and can melt the rocks and even cause the recycling of the plates, like the tracks on earth moving equipment. the ocean bed shows that this happens all the time, causing continental drift.
Below the crust and all its hot and cold spots, is a state which is not hollow, but mimics partial solidity to varying degrees in different places. It is only an effect, and does not necessarily mean that the insides are as such. But if we were to be in it, we would turn into nothing.
The conditions of this force within, can be changed and caused to erupt, in which case whole mountain chains would disappear, islands would vanish, and there would be places where it the earth has deep cavities in the crust.
If the other force - the light went out off control, the earth would stop and spin in the other direction and reel around like a drunkard.

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