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Tangle Member Posts: 9504 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 4.7 |
Faith writes: Where did I say anything to imply that you should expect to be punished? You really do have the memory of a goldfish.
Faith writes: I'm making a simple distinction: the cause of God's judgment (a society doing the wrong thing, such as not punishing crime or punishing good people) is different from the effect of God's judgment (the proliferation of crime).Life, don't talk to me about life - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved." - Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9142 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.3 |
Link to story please
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1465 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Oh good grief. He was talking about his own personal sins and being punished for them. I was talking about society's sins and God's judgment coming down for those. Those are two different things. It's really niot hard to sort out, you just have to think a little.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1465 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Look, I don't have to be anybody at all to get targeted by zealous gay rights advocates or other Political Correctness police. It's what I write that would attract their attention, not who I am. You didn't have to be a very important Jew to get carried off by the Nazis, just a Jew period.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1465 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Sorry, here's
THE LINK. Gay Advocate Raises Money to Help Christian Bakers Pay $150K Fine for Refusing to Bake Cake for Lesbian Wedding | U.S. News Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4411 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 5.4 |
Faith writes: You didn't have to be a very important Jew to get carried off by the Nazis, just a Jew period. They would have carried you on their shoulders.What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1465 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I hope so. I don't walk too well.
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 305 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
Look, I don't have to be anybody at all to get targeted by zealous gay rights advocates or other Political Correctness police. It's what I write that would attract their attention, not who I am. You didn't have to be a very important Jew to get carried off by the Nazis, just a Jew period. It's a wonder you can post for all that genocide that's being done to you, you freaking paranoid loony. How about that bet, then?
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1465 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
The persecution of half a dozen Christian businesses over a period of a few months, and the subpoenas of the Houston pastors because of a political opinion looks to me like persecution has begun in America. Maybe our prayers will hold it off or drive it back, I hope so.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17825 Joined: Member Rating: 2.2 |
Which only shows that a gay can be a better Christian than you and your bakers.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17825 Joined: Member Rating: 2.2 |
quote: Pretending to be persecuted is just a way of trying make people do what you want. THAT is what is going on. There's no persecution of Christian businesses going on. Just "Christians" who put their bigotry over the law - going against the Bible. The Houston pastors aren't being persecuted either. These things happen in lawsuits - and let us not forget it was the "Christians" who launched the lawsuit, not the city.
quote: Faith, you need to understand that there are degrees of evidence between "nothing" and "absolute proof". Just because people won't accept "nothing" as sufficient evidence doesn't mean that they demand "absolute proof". Given that you can't find anything that adds up to real persecution in the U.S. at all - your evidence of a coming genocide is "nothing". There are plenty of laws in place to protect "Christians" and no move to repeal them. If "we're being persecuted" amounts to at most "we shouldn't have to obey any laws we don't like!" then it's hard to take seriously. Perhaps the biggest reason that you get frustrated here is that you expect people to agree with you even if you are obviously wrong. And that is your problem even if you keep trying to blame everybody else.
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Tangle Member Posts: 9504 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 4.7 |
Faith writes: Oh good grief. He was talking about his own personal sins and being punished for them. I was talking about society's sins and God's judgment coming down for those. Those are two different things. It's really niot hard to sort out, you just have to think a little. The nonsense you talk about what you think god will and won't do is decipherable only to you. But we were talking about factual stuff - crime - real sin, the type that was chiselled on tablets of stone. Your claim is that the world is becoming more sinful but the demonstrable fact is that the opposite is happening. Why does this fact not inform you?Life, don't talk to me about life - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved." - Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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Larni Member (Idle past 185 days) Posts: 4000 From: Liverpool Joined: |
It seems to me that your god seems to be punishing Christians like you and heaping the benefits on the gaywise.
This leads me to beleive that your god may not be correctly represented by the OT and is more correctly represented by the NT. After all these if Jesus wanted the gays all out to the sword I think he is powerful enough to see it happen; but he seems to reward them all with access to marriage in many countries. It's makes one think. The above ontological example models the zero premise to BB theory. It does so by applying the relative uniformity assumption that the alleged zero event eventually ontologically progressed from the compressed alleged sub-microscopic chaos to bloom/expand into all of the present observable order, more than it models the Biblical record evidence for the existence of Jehovah, the maximal Biblical god designer. -Attributed to Buzsaw Message 53 The explain to them any scientific investigation that explains the existence of things qualifies as science and as an explanation-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 286 Does a query (thats a question Stile) that uses this physical reality, to look for an answer to its existence and properties become theoretical, considering its deductive conclusions are based against objective verifiable realities.-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 134
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1465 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Christians have said nothing along the lines of punishing gays. The topic here is that gay marriage violates God's ordinance and we will not support it. So whatever you are saying about the "sword" is nonsense if it implies punishing gays.
I'm not sure what you mean by "heaping the benefits" on the "gaywise" but I guess you simply mean that gay marriage is getting legalized and Christians are being punished for opposing it. No tolerance there, no live and let live. If you read that article, punished to the tune of $150,000, being treated to Mafia style tactics and so on. By the way I put up that article to answer your own question about whether they were actually fined in the "hundreds of thousands." But God has allowed Christians to be persecuted throughout the millennia, there is nothing new there, it's just new in America. First the pagan Romans threw us to the lions and later the Roman Church slaughtered us by the millions. Nothing new under the sun. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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jar Member (Idle past 415 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Faith writes: I answered you way way back there somewhere. Matthew 24:12 I think, the passage where Jesus is describing the signs of the times before the end and says lawlessness will abound. Or iniquity in the KJV. Sheesh Faith, can you ever get anything right? Gay marriage is not lawlessness. Nor is it iniquity. Edited by jar, : appalin spallinAnyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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