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Faith 
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Message 691 of 1309 (740812)
11-07-2014 2:38 PM
Reply to: Message 688 by PaulK
11-07-2014 2:33 PM


But that's because you're on the side of evil.
Well, there you have it, the perfect reversal of good for evil and evil for good that is THE sign of the last days.

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Message 692 of 1309 (740813)
11-07-2014 2:45 PM
Reply to: Message 689 by Faith
11-07-2014 2:33 PM


SANE ADVICE IN THIS POST !!!
Yawn. Just more of your usual attempts to invert reality. Your inability to fairly evaluate arguments has been demonstrated time and again.
Here's some sane advice. Assuming that the truth is what you want it to be - without bothering to get the facts right and understand the reality - will almost always lead you into error. Try and remember that and act on it.

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Message 693 of 1309 (740814)
11-07-2014 2:46 PM
Reply to: Message 690 by Faith
11-07-2014 2:35 PM


What about the Klinghoffer opera ? I don't know much about it so I neither support or condemn it. I doubt that you know much more.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 694 of 1309 (740816)
11-07-2014 2:51 PM
Reply to: Message 661 by Faith
11-07-2014 1:23 PM


For PaulK: This is an example of an abusive post and it's not mine.
I guess you identified that as abusive because I used the phrase "paranoid loony". But I am telling you that you're behaving like a paranoid loony because you are behaving like a paranoid loony. This is not mere abuse, this is how you behave.
I mean, let's look at the stuff you posted about how many hits you got on your blog. This is classic paranoia, it's the sort of stuff that schizophrenics come up with: they always combine their paranoia with megalomania. You are combining paranoia with megalomania: you are supposing that although your blog at best only gets views in three figures, you're important enough for THEM (whoever THEY are) to suppress.

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Message 695 of 1309 (740817)
11-07-2014 3:01 PM
Reply to: Message 681 by Faith
11-07-2014 2:13 PM


Bet?
It's picked up enormously just in the last few months, that's why I think it will probably come together in a fairly short time, within months or a year.
So, let's bet on it. "Within months or a year", you say.
But I would never bet on such timing.
Oh, what a surprise.
I would. I would bet on it. Because I really believe what I'm saying.
You wouldn't.
You all don't see the signs because you think they are all good things, progressive and so on.
Whereas you're so much smarter than me, and you can see the signs. You know what's coming.
And yet I am willing to wager on the outcome, and you are not. Since you've seen the signs, you have certain knowledge, which you won't bet on. Whereas I have mere belief based on empirical data, on which I will bet my shirt, my pants, and actual money.
If you really believe in what you're saying, let's agree to a bet.
Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.

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Tangle
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Message 696 of 1309 (740820)
11-07-2014 3:53 PM
Reply to: Message 686 by Faith
11-07-2014 2:24 PM


Faith writes:
No, not crime as such. Gay marriage is the sort of sin, but also sexual sins of all kinds for that matter which have also been given free rein over the last decades.
It seems you care more about gay sex than, murder, rape, theft, assault.....
Abortion for sure,
Abortion is certainly a very difficult issue, I'll give you that. Hopefully with some more scientific effort we'll reduce it to the absolute minimum.
The only clearcut crime I can think of at the moment that may have been increasing is molestation and murder of children but I'm not up on the statistics. How about the sex slave trade? Is it increasing or just more in the news? I suspect increasing. I'm sure there's a lot more but this is what comes to mind.
Well in fact crime - real crime - is falling all across the developed, secular world. The places where crime is rising is in those places where mediaeval beliefs still exist. Crime - real sin - has been falling for centuries. It's the civilising effect of democracy and fair and predictable laws that does it. The world is actually getting less sinful, not more - I'm afraid you'll have to wait a while longer for the end times.

Life, don't talk to me about life - Marvin the Paranoid Android
"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.

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Message 697 of 1309 (740821)
11-07-2014 4:06 PM
Reply to: Message 694 by Dr Adequate
11-07-2014 2:51 PM


Yes, and all those I called Idiots were behaving like idiots, one or two ion particular who couldn't understand the simplest point.
Why don't you propose this wager in specific terms and name your bet.
But it's crazy and you know it to take my guess at months to a year as something hard and fast. Just gives you an excuse to be obnoxious.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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Faith 
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Message 698 of 1309 (740822)
11-07-2014 4:12 PM
Reply to: Message 696 by Tangle
11-07-2014 3:53 PM


Crime that is called crime by society and punished by society as crime is not the problem. The problem is sin that is treated as not sin, good for evil and evil for good. Abortion is murder but we've legalized it, THAT's the particular kind of sin that's pulling down God's wrath. Legalizing gay marriage which is a violation of God's creation ordinance of marriage is a similar situation. Didn't I make that clear? If crime is increasing, however, crime that is called crime and punished as crime, and in some categories I believe it is, what that is, for your information, is God's judgment itself, God's wrath. But the increase of all evils in societies, including sins, is God's wrath.
I rather doubt your information about crime statistics but I don't keep up with them myself so all I can do is doubt.

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Faith 
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Message 699 of 1309 (740823)
11-07-2014 4:17 PM
Reply to: Message 694 by Dr Adequate
11-07-2014 2:51 PM


Yes I am that important. It doesn't take a lot of importance, it just takes Political Correctness on the part of those who manage internet software like Blogger. However, I'm often grateful that I don't attract a lot of attention because I feel freer to speak my mind. But when the normally very regular stats started falling it was alarming. They fell quite precipitously quite suddenly. And they haven't come back up yet either.
If a small business owner can be punished for refusing service, how important does a person have to be to attract the PC police to shut down whatever they disagree with?
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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Tanypteryx
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Message 700 of 1309 (740825)
11-07-2014 4:24 PM
Reply to: Message 698 by Faith
11-07-2014 4:12 PM


Faith writes:
what that is, for your information, is God's judgment itself, God's wrath. But the increase of all evils in societies, including sins, is God's wrath.
So, god creates sins (his wrath) and then punishes us (his wrath again) for the sins he created.
You must be right, it all makes sense now.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

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Faith 
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Message 701 of 1309 (740827)
11-07-2014 4:27 PM
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11-07-2014 4:24 PM


God ALLOWS sins to proliferate. when people have become as perverse as they are today. He does play a restraining role otherwise. When He lets Satan loose it's because we deserve it. And sin corrupts society and causes more sin.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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Larni
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Message 702 of 1309 (740829)
11-07-2014 4:28 PM


Faith, please answer my question.
Where in the Bible does it say that gay marriage is a sign of the end times?
All the best.
Edited by Larni, : Added question mark.

The above ontological example models the zero premise to BB theory. It does so by applying the relative uniformity assumption that the alleged zero event eventually ontologically progressed from the compressed alleged sub-microscopic chaos to bloom/expand into all of the present observable order, more than it models the Biblical record evidence for the existence of Jehovah, the maximal Biblical god designer.
-Attributed to Buzsaw Message 53
The explain to them any scientific investigation that explains the existence of things qualifies as science and as an explanation
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 286
Does a query (thats a question Stile) that uses this physical reality, to look for an answer to its existence and properties become theoretical, considering its deductive conclusions are based against objective verifiable realities.
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 134

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Faith 
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Message 703 of 1309 (740830)
11-07-2014 4:30 PM
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11-07-2014 4:28 PM


I answered you way way back there somewhere.
Matthew 24:12 I think, the passage where Jesus is describing the signs of the times before the end and says lawlessness will abound. Or iniquity in the KJV.

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Faith 
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Message 704 of 1309 (740831)
11-07-2014 4:33 PM
Reply to: Message 499 by Larni
05-21-2014 7:33 PM


Re: evidence reviewed
It was not a fine of 'hundreds of thousands' was it?
'Fess up. You jumped on the Fox News hyperbole magical mystery tour.
Last figure I heard for what the Oregon bakery was fined was $180,000, given in a video shown at the Houston protest gathering.
ABE: Just found this story, about a gay advocate who is raising money for the Kleins who had the bakery. The fine mentioned in this story is $150.000.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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Message 705 of 1309 (740834)
11-07-2014 4:42 PM
Reply to: Message 698 by Faith
11-07-2014 4:12 PM


Faith writes:
Crime that is called crime by society and punished by society as crime is not the problem. The problem is sin that is treated as not sin, good for evil and evil for good.
That's just dissembling. If crime - real sin - was increasing you'd be crying it from the rooftops as evidence of the end. The fact is all traditional crime types are falling and have been for centuries.
I rather doubt your information about crime statistics but I don't keep up with them myself so all I can do is doubt.
I can prove it to you if you like but your ability to adjust to facts that go against your preferred version of the world has been shown to be non-existent.

Life, don't talk to me about life - Marvin the Paranoid Android
"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.

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