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NoNukes
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Message 199 of 224 (738336)
10-09-2014 4:27 AM
Reply to: Message 198 by djufo
10-08-2014 11:53 PM


By 12? they count 9 planets, including Pluto, plus the moon 10, the Sun 11 (in the center, just like we know today) plus one more large planet in an elliptical orbit around the sun going all the way out possibly beyond the oort cloud.
No one is aware of any planet going out beyond the Oort cloud, so what is your indication that this prediction is correct? And as far as planets out beyond Neptune, there are a number of Pluto sized objects out there. How many of them did the Sumerians manage to find?

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NoNukes
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Message 200 of 224 (738338)
10-09-2014 5:27 AM
Reply to: Message 174 by djufo
10-04-2014 12:23 PM


The best habitable zone in the planet was of course close to the Equator. This put us EXACTLY where the first human civilizations were created and were the creation took place, mesopotamia. Today southern Iraq.
I suggest peeking at a map or globe while posting. Iraq is nowhere near the equator.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
I have never met a man so ignorant that I couldn't learn something from him. Galileo Galilei
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass

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NoNukes
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Message 201 of 224 (738339)
10-09-2014 5:28 AM
Reply to: Message 174 by djufo
10-04-2014 12:23 PM


The best habitable zone in the planet was of course close to the Equator. This put us EXACTLY where the first human civilizations were created and were the creation took place, mesopotamia. Today southern Iraq.
I suggest peeking at a map or globe while posting. Iraq is nowhere near the equator.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
I have never met a man so ignorant that I couldn't learn something from him. Galileo Galilei
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass

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NoNukes
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Message 207 of 224 (738377)
10-09-2014 3:50 PM
Reply to: Message 205 by Theodoric
10-09-2014 11:59 AM


Iraq corresponds with the southern USA.
Baghdad is a little bit south of Atlanta... and quite a bit west of course.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
I have never met a man so ignorant that I couldn't learn something from him. Galileo Galilei
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass

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NoNukes
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Message 208 of 224 (738378)
10-09-2014 3:57 PM
Reply to: Message 206 by RAZD
10-09-2014 3:33 PM


Re: 12 months\zodiac constellations ...
From what I can see there is an abundance of interpretations on the internet.
I had no doubt that this was the case. I bust a gut every time I read the phrase 'ancient data' that describes some stuff somebody fabricated and posted just a few years ago.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
I have never met a man so ignorant that I couldn't learn something from him. Galileo Galilei
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass

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NoNukes
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Message 213 of 224 (738404)
10-09-2014 9:14 PM
Reply to: Message 210 by djufo
10-09-2014 6:09 PM


How do you know nobody is aware of a large size object beyond the oort cloud? Do you have faith in those who decide what you are allowed to know as the truth?
In other words, you have no way of knowing whether the Sumerians were right or wrong about a large planet beyond the Oort cloud, and thus the claim, if there even is description of such a planet on a tablet is not evidence of anything.
And again, Sumerians didn't discover anything. They didn't have any equipment or technology nor superman eyes.
I take it from your waffling that you cannot explain why the number of planets you claim the Sumerians depicted does not seem to match the actual solar system.
Which is really the point of my question. You've more than answered it.
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Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
I have never met a man so ignorant that I couldn't learn something from him. Galileo Galilei
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass

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NoNukes
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Message 217 of 224 (738583)
10-12-2014 3:03 PM
Reply to: Message 216 by djufo
10-12-2014 2:51 PM


Well, it does match the solar system. The 9 planets are there, plus the moon, the sun, and an x planet.
If the list of planets includes Pluto, as you have already indicated, then we know already that there are more planets than you've listed in your current post. So there is no match. It is simply not possible to list nine planets of the solar system as there are multiple known trans-Neptunian object besides Pluto. Include Pluto, and you must include the larger Eris and at least Makemake as well.
There are also moons in the solar system that are larger than Earth's moon. What's the point of ignoring them?
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Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
I have never met a man so ignorant that I couldn't learn something from him. Galileo Galilei
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass

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NoNukes
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Message 220 of 224 (738607)
10-12-2014 11:36 PM
Reply to: Message 216 by djufo
10-12-2014 2:51 PM


Since we can't see Uranus with our naked eyes to say that is bright green
Amusing. But nonsense.
It turns out Uranus can actually be viewed with the naked eye, and certainly with binoculars. Beyond that of course it is easily visible in any telescope that isn't a toy. Amateur astronomers report the color as blue to blue-greens.
The Position of Uranus in the Night Sky: 2019 to 2032
https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=201106050839...
So, wrong about the color being a surprise and the collapsing brains, wrong about Uranus being not visible to the naked eye, and ignoring that it is visible through telescopes. What else?
When the voyager 2 passed by in the 70's,
Voyager was launched in the late 70s, but the fly by of Uranus was in the mid 80s. Wrong again.
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Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
I have never met a man so ignorant that I couldn't learn something from him. Galileo Galilei
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass

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NoNukes
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Message 224 of 224 (743802)
12-04-2014 4:06 PM
Reply to: Message 223 by Astrophile
12-04-2014 1:53 AM


Re: Curiously 8,000 years is less than 10,000 years
The solar system bodies that could have been seen without a telescope by ancient astronomers were the Sun, the Moon, and the planets Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, and Uranus.
Lots of good information in you post, Astrophile. (And I like the handle).
What was being foisted here was the idea that the Sumerians had some knowledge of the solar system that must have come from some space travelers. I think you've given a good summary about what could have been seen from earth. So the question is what if anything more can we make a case that a space traveler flying inbound towards earth would have provided that could not be seen from earth. I'm suggesting that the number nine is very difficult to come by for the space traveler.
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Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
I have never met a man so ignorant that I couldn't learn something from him. Galileo Galilei
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass

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