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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 305 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
Was that article written by your God? Yes there are less chimps because there's something called natural selection. Ah, more incoherent non sequiturs.
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 305 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
By the way, evolution of humans should be just mentioned in schools as a theory. it is ridiculous and disrespectful for the whole specie, but since there's a bunch of making a living out of it, it should be just mentioned to kids. Importance to facts should be given as priority in education. Has it occurred to you that maybe scientists, who know about science, are better equipped to decide which bits of science are important than people like you, who aren't scientists and who are pig-ignorant of science?
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 305 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
Well, I was wondering. You wrote:
In nature that does not happen. Now, this is, as I have shown, not true. And at that point, you should have paused for thought. Specifically, you should have thought: "Hey, I'm making up crap about a subject of which I know nothing, and asserting it as a fact". And you should have thought: "Oh dear, that pretty much makes me a big fat liar". And you should have thought: "Maybe I should stop talking about genetics until I know the first damn thing about it". Apparently you didn't think any of those things. But this would be an excellent time to start thinking them.
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djufo Member (Idle past 3475 days) Posts: 55 From: FL Joined: |
That is exactly the process used by your experts to brainwash you and make you a "believer" to lower your self esteem, or perhaps keep it down where it was to begin with, and give you an exit to a life of depression through a world of science fiction and make you call yourself a "scientist"
When it comes to the theory of human evolution, unfortunately we are wasting money throwing it to the garbage supporting this clowns. These same clowns have been scratching their heads for years trying to come up with the perfect fantasy about our origins. And they get paid for it. I would say, since they don't have anything else to do with their lives, let's mention the theory just to justify their jobs. But from an educational point of view, it is senseless and ridiculous to teach our origins out of a "theory" it is a joke. So ridiculous and stupid, that kids think at it as fact. Is part of our culture and society to "believe" that we evolve from monkeys. That is the level of stupidity and ignorance in the majority of the population. For how long Dinosaurs were on earth? what they accomplished thanks to evolution?
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1426 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Before I waste my time replying are you serious about those pictures of monkeys??? ... If you want a serious debate about the evidence and what that tells us about evolution in general and human evolution in particular, then yes, you will stop pretending to be an authority on topics you are misinformed (generous assessment) about. Those pictures are not of monkeys, but of hominids. Hominids are apes, just as you are an ape. Apes are primates, just as you are a primate. Monkeys and humans share a common primate ancestor. Now I've told you this before but it appears that you didn't understand or ignored the information (or are too stupid to understand - doubtful - or you are intentionally - maliciously - misrepresenting things, as a troll would do). Trolls try to elicit an emotional response rather than engage in honest debate.
... please tell me if that is displayed as a fact somewhere because that joke has to make news. ... Again, cognitive dissonance behavior predicts this kind of response to mock and reject information that conflicts with firmly held beliefs. Curiously, I provided you with the link information so that you could study\read\investigate the information there. Fossils are facts and you have not explained them. Evolution does. Again, I have asked you to define evolution, the process and the theory. You haven't, and I suspect this is because you can't ... but you could prove me wrong. Saying that something that you can't define is a joke is the epitome of ignorant hubris. So give it a try: The process of evolution is: ___________________________ The theory of evolution is: _____________________________ Would you not agree that arguing with an automechanic about how best to fix your car when you are patently ignorant of how your car works is rather silly? Enjoy.by our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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Coyote Member (Idle past 2127 days) Posts: 6117 Joined: |
Is part of our culture and society to "believe" that we evolve from monkeys. We did not evolve from monkeys. Both the ape line (of which we are a part) and monkey line evolved from a critter that can best be described as an ape-toothed monkey. And this is what the evidence shows--no belief needed.Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge. Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1 "Multiculturalism" does not include the American culture. That is what it is against.
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 305 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
That is exactly the process used by your experts to brainwash you and make you a "believer" to lower your self esteem, or perhaps keep it down where it was to begin with, and give you an exit to a life of depression through a world of science fiction and make you call yourself a "scientist" When it comes to the theory of human evolution, unfortunately we are wasting money throwing it to the garbage supporting this clowns. These same clowns have been scratching their heads for years trying to come up with the perfect fantasy about our origins. And they get paid for it. I would say, since they don't have anything else to do with their lives, let's mention the theory just to justify their jobs. But from an educational point of view, it is senseless and ridiculous to teach our origins out of a "theory" it is a joke. So ridiculous and stupid, that kids think at it as fact. Is part of our culture and society to "believe" that we evolve from monkeys. That is the level of stupidity and ignorance in the majority of the population. For how long Dinosaurs were on earth? what they accomplished thanks to evolution? This random collection of words is not an answer to my post. Let me make the point again. What you stated definitively as a fact is known to be 100% wrong. Does that not lead you to question your expertise concerning a subject which you have obviously never bothered to study? Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.
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djufo Member (Idle past 3475 days) Posts: 55 From: FL Joined: |
Thank you for your generous assessment. However,m in your own blindness of your religion, You have no clue what I'm talking about. And I'm gonna point one detail to you. In that picture of monkey heads, explain me WHY IN THE WORLD, ALL the heads except the last 2, are tilted forward??? uh? Who are you trying to fool with that cheap trick. Do you really think the majority of the people is that stupid? Why the last one (Sapiens) is perfectly resting in an horizontal position, while ALL the previous ones are tilted forward. Look at the jaw bone line. Look at the back of the head. Well, here's the reason why: Because if you let them rest in its natural position, THEY DONT LOOK AT ALL LIKE US. That is the reason why, and these clowns know it. But somehow they have to find a cheap way to justify their jobs, and satisfy the demand of those on top to brainwash people. Those ugly monkeys in the pictures barely have a forehead. They HAVE to tilt them forward to make them look somewhat a little similar to an homo sapiens and create an optical illusion of a transition. The last 2 creatures are similar, while all the previous ones are different. It is unbelievable the level of desperation these people reach to try to make that stupid theory work. Even an idiot can see it!
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djufo Member (Idle past 3475 days) Posts: 55 From: FL Joined: |
Coyote, don't worry we did not evolve from any of those animals. If we did, you bet a different one would have evolved too. Not just "us" and definitely not from one day to another, but over millions and millions of years.
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 305 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
Thank you for your generous assessment. However,m in your own blindness of your religion, You have no clue what I'm talking about. And I'm gonna point one detail to you. In that picture of monkey heads, explain me WHY IN THE WORLD, ALL the heads except the last 2, are tilted forward??? uh? Who are you trying to fool with that cheap trick. Do you really think the majority of the people is that stupid? Why the last one (Sapiens) is perfectly resting in an horizontal position, while ALL the previous ones are tilted forward. Look at the jaw bone line. Look at the back of the head. Well, here's the reason why: Because if you let them rest in its natural position, THEY DONT LOOK AT ALL LIKE US. That is the reason why, and these clowns know it. But somehow they have to find a cheap way to justify their jobs, and satisfy the demand of those on top to brainwash people. Those ugly monkeys in the pictures barely have a forehead. They HAVE to tilt them forward to make them look somewhat a little similar to an homo sapiens and create an optical illusion of a transition. The last 2 creatures are similar, while all the previous ones are different. It is unbelievable the level of desperation these people reach to try to make that stupid theory work. Even an idiot can see it! Indeed, being an idiot would seem to be the essential qualification. Anyone else would be able to see that skull N would look more like the previous skulls if it was displayed at the same angle as them.
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Coyote Member (Idle past 2127 days) Posts: 6117 Joined: |
Coyote, don't worry we did not evolve from any of those animals. If we did, you bet a different one would have evolved too. Not just "us" and definitely not from one day to another, but over millions and millions of years. Sorry, you are wrong once again. I have actually studied the evidence; half my graduate work to the Ph.D. level was in the fields of fossil man and human osteology. (The other half was in anthropology/archaeology.) You are useful for your entertainment value though! I have seen the evidence, and studied it. It shows you are absolutely wrong--but of course being a troll you won't accept any evidence that contradicts your beliefs, no matter how well-documented that evidence is.Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge. Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1 "Multiculturalism" does not include the American culture. That is what it is against.
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 305 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
For the benefit of anyone too freakin' stupid to figure out what the picture would look like if you rotated skull N 15 degrees clockwise, here is the picture with skull N rotated 15 degrees clockwise.
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Pressie Member Posts: 2103 From: Pretoria, SA Joined: |
Why do creationists always do the Gish Gallop?
Rhetological question.
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Percy Member Posts: 22480 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.8 |
djufo writes: By the way, evolution of humans should be just mentioned in schools as a theory. it is ridiculous and disrespectful for the whole specie, but since there's a bunch of making a living out of it, it should be just mentioned to kids. The theory of evolution receives very little attention in most high school biology curricula, usually less than a week, so your wish that it "be just mentioned to kids" is pretty much already the reality.
Importance to facts should be given as priority in education. I think we can all agree with this. --Percy
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ringo Member (Idle past 433 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
djufo writes:
Did your school mention what a theory is? Because you don't seem to understand the concept. By the way, evolution of humans should be just mentioned in schools as a theory. A theory is built by testing hypotheses. Does creationism even have a testable hypothesis?
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