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Belief: Directive vs. Reflective

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ringo
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07-30-2014 11:56 AM 		Reply to: Message 9 by mike the wiz
06-29-2014 7:56 AM

mike the wiz writes:
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Stile writes:
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I don't know anyone who relys on a god for important decisions in their life
I think such a statement only tells us something about your thinking.
I know a lot of people who say, "God is leading us to... (do exactly what we wanted to do all along)." It's much rarer to find somebody who follows God's advice to do something they don't want to do.
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ringo
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08-01-2014 11:51 AM 		Reply to: Message 15 by mike the wiz
08-01-2014 4:45 AM

mike the wiz writes:
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I think this shows ignorance of people that are genuinely born again Christians.
That sounds like the No True Scotsman fallacy. Anybody who disagrees with you is not a "true" Christian.
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FYI, almost everybody I know is a "born again" Christian and I have no reason to think they are less genuine than you are.
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mike the wiz writes:
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It's fair to say that atheists aren't going to be looking around for genuine examples, when in their own minds they have enough evidence to rule it all as "false".
I have no axe to grind here. I'm talking about people I know and love. I hope they are "true" Christians. I wish what they are saying was true - but I fear they're deceiving themselves.
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mike the wiz writes:
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I hope you understand my point. It can be difficult to know what I am talking about if you are not me.
Maybe you could express yourself more clearly if you quoted logic texts less and used logic more.
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