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Author Topic:   Belief: Directive vs. Reflective
Phat
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Message 8 of 20 (729949)
06-22-2014 2:46 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Stile
04-02-2012 11:55 AM


Direct Reflections
I think that my actions are reflective but that my belief is a directive.

When I use a word, Humpty Dumpty said, in a rather scornful tone, it means just what I choose it to meannothing more nor less.

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Phat
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Message 11 of 20 (734536)
07-30-2014 10:49 AM
Reply to: Message 10 by mike the wiz
06-29-2014 8:01 AM


Re: Direct Reflections
Keep in mind that those of us who know God (or believe that we do) God is an objective "still small voice" that we see as external (and thus objective) wisdom whereas for the other folks, it appears as if we are subjectively rationalizing our responses and beliefs...thus Stile uses logic the only way he knows how. He cant relate to the idea of God talking to him since he has never perceived it the way that you might. Personally, I think that Stile is quite logical...the only thing that trips me out about him is that he prefers to do the things himself that believers would allow Jesus to do for them.
He is quite a polite chap, however. I can fully understand why he thinks the way that he does, and dont see him as inferior to me or needy in any way.
IF God exists and exists the way that you and I believe, Stile will be just fine.
He would say that IF not, that too is ok, but it would have serious repercussions for the mental health of you and I.

...."When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, 'it means just what I choose it to mean neither more nor less."

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Phat
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Message 14 of 20 (734626)
07-31-2014 5:29 PM
Reply to: Message 13 by Stile
07-30-2014 12:13 PM


Re: Direct Reflections
Lets summarize this topic so far, shall we?
Directive Belief
A directive belief is a belief someone holds that describes how they should live their life.
Reflective Belief
A reflective belief is a belief someone holds that describes how their life is lived.(...)
I don't present two alternatives because I think they are the only ones possible.
I only present them because they are the only two I know of.
Perhaps Mike is suggesting that there is a third option. Trust in the Lord (whom he believes is alive today) and allow God to influence your daily decisions and life. I suppose, however, that this would still be a reflective belief so perhaps there are only two options.

...."When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, 'it means just what I choose it to mean neither more nor less."

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