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Larni
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From: Liverpool
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Message 499 of 1309 (727935)
05-21-2014 7:33 PM
Reply to: Message 459 by Faith
05-21-2014 5:04 AM


Re: evidence reviewed
It was not a fine of 'hundreds of thousands' was it?
'Fess up. You jumped on the Fox News hyperbole magical mystery tour.

The above ontological example models the zero premise to BB theory. It does so by applying the relative uniformity assumption that the alleged zero event eventually ontologically progressed from the compressed alleged sub-microscopic chaos to bloom/expand into all of the present observable order, more than it models the Biblical record evidence for the existence of Jehovah, the maximal Biblical god designer.
-Attributed to Buzsaw Message 53
The explain to them any scientific investigation that explains the existence of things qualifies as science and as an explanation
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 286
Does a query (thats a question Stile) that uses this physical reality, to look for an answer to its existence and properties become theoretical, considering its deductive conclusions are based against objective verifiable realities.
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 134

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Larni
Member (Idle past 185 days)
Posts: 4000
From: Liverpool
Joined: 09-16-2005


Message 514 of 1309 (727968)
05-22-2014 8:07 AM
Reply to: Message 511 by Faith
05-22-2014 6:23 AM


Re: evidence
Why not be inclusive in such a case?
Because when it suits your purpose you label them as Christians and when it does not you label the same people as pseudo Christian.
Edited by Larni, : No reason given.
Edited by Larni, : No reason given.

The above ontological example models the zero premise to BB theory. It does so by applying the relative uniformity assumption that the alleged zero event eventually ontologically progressed from the compressed alleged sub-microscopic chaos to bloom/expand into all of the present observable order, more than it models the Biblical record evidence for the existence of Jehovah, the maximal Biblical god designer.
-Attributed to Buzsaw Message 53
The explain to them any scientific investigation that explains the existence of things qualifies as science and as an explanation
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 286
Does a query (thats a question Stile) that uses this physical reality, to look for an answer to its existence and properties become theoretical, considering its deductive conclusions are based against objective verifiable realities.
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 134

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Larni
Member (Idle past 185 days)
Posts: 4000
From: Liverpool
Joined: 09-16-2005


Message 542 of 1309 (728073)
05-23-2014 12:01 PM
Reply to: Message 540 by Faith
05-23-2014 11:14 AM


Re: conflicting rights you've got to be kidding
and what that means is that Christians are going to be punished more and more as we are going to disobey this outrageous travesty.
Can I ask, is having to live in a society where you cannot refuse to serve gays in and of itself a punishment?
It seems to me (and forgive me if I'm wrong) that being forced to conform to the law of the land (in this case) is counted as punishment of Christians (from your perspective).
And further, there is a pernicious, sinister reason for society forcing you to act against your conscience (which I fully accept is happening, here).
What would that reason be?

The above ontological example models the zero premise to BB theory. It does so by applying the relative uniformity assumption that the alleged zero event eventually ontologically progressed from the compressed alleged sub-microscopic chaos to bloom/expand into all of the present observable order, more than it models the Biblical record evidence for the existence of Jehovah, the maximal Biblical god designer.
-Attributed to Buzsaw Message 53
The explain to them any scientific investigation that explains the existence of things qualifies as science and as an explanation
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 286
Does a query (thats a question Stile) that uses this physical reality, to look for an answer to its existence and properties become theoretical, considering its deductive conclusions are based against objective verifiable realities.
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 134

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Larni
Member (Idle past 185 days)
Posts: 4000
From: Liverpool
Joined: 09-16-2005


Message 644 of 1309 (740645)
11-06-2014 1:35 PM
Reply to: Message 641 by Faith
11-06-2014 11:50 AM


One World Order?
The world you live in must be terrifying.

The above ontological example models the zero premise to BB theory. It does so by applying the relative uniformity assumption that the alleged zero event eventually ontologically progressed from the compressed alleged sub-microscopic chaos to bloom/expand into all of the present observable order, more than it models the Biblical record evidence for the existence of Jehovah, the maximal Biblical god designer.
-Attributed to Buzsaw Message 53
The explain to them any scientific investigation that explains the existence of things qualifies as science and as an explanation
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 286
Does a query (thats a question Stile) that uses this physical reality, to look for an answer to its existence and properties become theoretical, considering its deductive conclusions are based against objective verifiable realities.
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 134

This message is a reply to:
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Larni
Member (Idle past 185 days)
Posts: 4000
From: Liverpool
Joined: 09-16-2005


Message 662 of 1309 (740777)
11-07-2014 1:42 PM
Reply to: Message 659 by Faith
11-07-2014 12:52 PM


You do know that those no good gawise have been around for thousands of years, don't you? They were there when Jesus was there first time around and the world did not end.
Is Jesus waiting for God (i.e. Jesus) to tell Him (i.e. Himself) that He (who is God) can come back to Earth? Does God (who is Jesus) have to wait until some kind of 'critical gay mass' before He (who is Himself) can return to slaughter most people in His (who is, um I forget which who I mean at this point) mercy?
Surely those no good abominations have been at it long enough? Just how many anal antics are acts of lesbiopaathy does Jesus (who is, oh never mind) need to watch in his prurient way until he says enough is enough and kills most people?
He really does move in mysterious ways.

The above ontological example models the zero premise to BB theory. It does so by applying the relative uniformity assumption that the alleged zero event eventually ontologically progressed from the compressed alleged sub-microscopic chaos to bloom/expand into all of the present observable order, more than it models the Biblical record evidence for the existence of Jehovah, the maximal Biblical god designer.
-Attributed to Buzsaw Message 53
The explain to them any scientific investigation that explains the existence of things qualifies as science and as an explanation
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 286
Does a query (thats a question Stile) that uses this physical reality, to look for an answer to its existence and properties become theoretical, considering its deductive conclusions are based against objective verifiable realities.
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 134

This message is a reply to:
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Larni
Member (Idle past 185 days)
Posts: 4000
From: Liverpool
Joined: 09-16-2005


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Message 666 of 1309 (740781)
11-07-2014 1:50 PM
Reply to: Message 665 by Faith
11-07-2014 1:46 PM


What does marriage have to do with it?
Jesus wants the gays dead either way.
ABE: actually forget all I said. I just noticed my post is number 666. It must be the mark of the devil.
Edited by Larni, : or is it 616?

The above ontological example models the zero premise to BB theory. It does so by applying the relative uniformity assumption that the alleged zero event eventually ontologically progressed from the compressed alleged sub-microscopic chaos to bloom/expand into all of the present observable order, more than it models the Biblical record evidence for the existence of Jehovah, the maximal Biblical god designer.
-Attributed to Buzsaw Message 53
The explain to them any scientific investigation that explains the existence of things qualifies as science and as an explanation
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 286
Does a query (thats a question Stile) that uses this physical reality, to look for an answer to its existence and properties become theoretical, considering its deductive conclusions are based against objective verifiable realities.
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 134

This message is a reply to:
 Message 665 by Faith, posted 11-07-2014 1:46 PM Faith has replied

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Larni
Member (Idle past 185 days)
Posts: 4000
From: Liverpool
Joined: 09-16-2005


Message 669 of 1309 (740785)
11-07-2014 1:53 PM
Reply to: Message 668 by Faith
11-07-2014 1:52 PM


When did gay marriage become a sign of the end times?
And didn't god (who is Jesus) promise not to kill us again? And to prove it he gave a rainbow (which is about as gay a sign as you can get).
Edited by Larni, : No reason given.

The above ontological example models the zero premise to BB theory. It does so by applying the relative uniformity assumption that the alleged zero event eventually ontologically progressed from the compressed alleged sub-microscopic chaos to bloom/expand into all of the present observable order, more than it models the Biblical record evidence for the existence of Jehovah, the maximal Biblical god designer.
-Attributed to Buzsaw Message 53
The explain to them any scientific investigation that explains the existence of things qualifies as science and as an explanation
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 286
Does a query (thats a question Stile) that uses this physical reality, to look for an answer to its existence and properties become theoretical, considering its deductive conclusions are based against objective verifiable realities.
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 134

This message is a reply to:
 Message 668 by Faith, posted 11-07-2014 1:52 PM Faith has replied

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Larni
Member (Idle past 185 days)
Posts: 4000
From: Liverpool
Joined: 09-16-2005


Message 680 of 1309 (740799)
11-07-2014 2:08 PM
Reply to: Message 676 by Faith
11-07-2014 2:03 PM


No body said that your god is gay. Only that he used a well know gay symbol to apologise to humanity for loosing control that one time.
Where in the Bible(KJV1611) does it say that gay marriage (rather than simply homersexualism) is a sign of the end times?

The above ontological example models the zero premise to BB theory. It does so by applying the relative uniformity assumption that the alleged zero event eventually ontologically progressed from the compressed alleged sub-microscopic chaos to bloom/expand into all of the present observable order, more than it models the Biblical record evidence for the existence of Jehovah, the maximal Biblical god designer.
-Attributed to Buzsaw Message 53
The explain to them any scientific investigation that explains the existence of things qualifies as science and as an explanation
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 286
Does a query (thats a question Stile) that uses this physical reality, to look for an answer to its existence and properties become theoretical, considering its deductive conclusions are based against objective verifiable realities.
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 134

This message is a reply to:
 Message 676 by Faith, posted 11-07-2014 2:03 PM Faith has not replied

Larni
Member (Idle past 185 days)
Posts: 4000
From: Liverpool
Joined: 09-16-2005


Message 702 of 1309 (740829)
11-07-2014 4:28 PM


Faith, please answer my question.
Where in the Bible does it say that gay marriage is a sign of the end times?
All the best.
Edited by Larni, : Added question mark.

The above ontological example models the zero premise to BB theory. It does so by applying the relative uniformity assumption that the alleged zero event eventually ontologically progressed from the compressed alleged sub-microscopic chaos to bloom/expand into all of the present observable order, more than it models the Biblical record evidence for the existence of Jehovah, the maximal Biblical god designer.
-Attributed to Buzsaw Message 53
The explain to them any scientific investigation that explains the existence of things qualifies as science and as an explanation
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 286
Does a query (thats a question Stile) that uses this physical reality, to look for an answer to its existence and properties become theoretical, considering its deductive conclusions are based against objective verifiable realities.
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 134

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Larni
Member (Idle past 185 days)
Posts: 4000
From: Liverpool
Joined: 09-16-2005


Message 709 of 1309 (740839)
11-07-2014 4:58 PM
Reply to: Message 703 by Faith
11-07-2014 4:30 PM


Matthew 24:12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.
Hm. Nothing about gay marriage there.
I guess you must be wrong.

The above ontological example models the zero premise to BB theory. It does so by applying the relative uniformity assumption that the alleged zero event eventually ontologically progressed from the compressed alleged sub-microscopic chaos to bloom/expand into all of the present observable order, more than it models the Biblical record evidence for the existence of Jehovah, the maximal Biblical god designer.
-Attributed to Buzsaw Message 53
The explain to them any scientific investigation that explains the existence of things qualifies as science and as an explanation
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 286
Does a query (thats a question Stile) that uses this physical reality, to look for an answer to its existence and properties become theoretical, considering its deductive conclusions are based against objective verifiable realities.
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 134

This message is a reply to:
 Message 703 by Faith, posted 11-07-2014 4:30 PM Faith has not replied

Larni
Member (Idle past 185 days)
Posts: 4000
From: Liverpool
Joined: 09-16-2005


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Message 711 of 1309 (740841)
11-07-2014 5:07 PM
Reply to: Message 706 by Faith
11-07-2014 4:45 PM


Faith writes:
No. If crime is punished by a society it isn't going to pull down God's wrath because the society is doing the right thing. It's when society does the wrong thing that it is punished.
But an increase in crime could certainly be a sign of the end times, that's something else.
That makes no sense. According to the Bible's idea of sinning I'm a world class sinner and yet I'm happier than I've every been.
I'll be a father soon, we are moving into a new house and we can both afford to work part time and spend quality time with the new arrival.
Yet I've lived in sin, had sex before marriage, masturbated like mad, I've been jealous, covertous, I've taken your god's name in vain, yet it's all comming up Larni.
Why has God not smote me, in his mercy? Where is his wrath?
Edited by Larni, : No reason given.

The above ontological example models the zero premise to BB theory. It does so by applying the relative uniformity assumption that the alleged zero event eventually ontologically progressed from the compressed alleged sub-microscopic chaos to bloom/expand into all of the present observable order, more than it models the Biblical record evidence for the existence of Jehovah, the maximal Biblical god designer.
-Attributed to Buzsaw Message 53
The explain to them any scientific investigation that explains the existence of things qualifies as science and as an explanation
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 286
Does a query (thats a question Stile) that uses this physical reality, to look for an answer to its existence and properties become theoretical, considering its deductive conclusions are based against objective verifiable realities.
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 134

This message is a reply to:
 Message 706 by Faith, posted 11-07-2014 4:45 PM Faith has replied

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Larni
Member (Idle past 185 days)
Posts: 4000
From: Liverpool
Joined: 09-16-2005


Message 733 of 1309 (740909)
11-08-2014 6:28 AM


It seems to me that your god seems to be punishing Christians like you and heaping the benefits on the gaywise.
This leads me to beleive that your god may not be correctly represented by the OT and is more correctly represented by the NT.
After all these if Jesus wanted the gays all out to the sword I think he is powerful enough to see it happen; but he seems to reward them all with access to marriage in many countries.
It's makes one think.

The above ontological example models the zero premise to BB theory. It does so by applying the relative uniformity assumption that the alleged zero event eventually ontologically progressed from the compressed alleged sub-microscopic chaos to bloom/expand into all of the present observable order, more than it models the Biblical record evidence for the existence of Jehovah, the maximal Biblical god designer.
-Attributed to Buzsaw Message 53
The explain to them any scientific investigation that explains the existence of things qualifies as science and as an explanation
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 286
Does a query (thats a question Stile) that uses this physical reality, to look for an answer to its existence and properties become theoretical, considering its deductive conclusions are based against objective verifiable realities.
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 134

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Larni
Member (Idle past 185 days)
Posts: 4000
From: Liverpool
Joined: 09-16-2005


Message 747 of 1309 (740952)
11-08-2014 1:18 PM
Reply to: Message 734 by Faith
11-08-2014 8:20 AM


But God has allowed Christians to be persecuted throughout the millennia, there is nothing new there, it's just new in America. First the pagan Romans threw us to the lions and later the Roman Church slaughtered us by the millions. Nothing new under the sun.
That's true. Your God really seems to hate you guys.
view historically held by every culture
Like slavery?
Edited by Larni, : No reason given.

The above ontological example models the zero premise to BB theory. It does so by applying the relative uniformity assumption that the alleged zero event eventually ontologically progressed from the compressed alleged sub-microscopic chaos to bloom/expand into all of the present observable order, more than it models the Biblical record evidence for the existence of Jehovah, the maximal Biblical god designer.
-Attributed to Buzsaw Message 53
The explain to them any scientific investigation that explains the existence of things qualifies as science and as an explanation
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 286
Does a query (thats a question Stile) that uses this physical reality, to look for an answer to its existence and properties become theoretical, considering its deductive conclusions are based against objective verifiable realities.
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 134

This message is a reply to:
 Message 734 by Faith, posted 11-08-2014 8:20 AM Faith has not replied

Larni
Member (Idle past 185 days)
Posts: 4000
From: Liverpool
Joined: 09-16-2005


Message 751 of 1309 (740967)
11-08-2014 4:59 PM
Reply to: Message 748 by Faith
11-08-2014 1:26 PM


Re: I suggest the reading problem is yours.
Is it inherently good to kill gays (as per Lev 20:13)?

The above ontological example models the zero premise to BB theory. It does so by applying the relative uniformity assumption that the alleged zero event eventually ontologically progressed from the compressed alleged sub-microscopic chaos to bloom/expand into all of the present observable order, more than it models the Biblical record evidence for the existence of Jehovah, the maximal Biblical god designer.
-Attributed to Buzsaw Message 53
The explain to them any scientific investigation that explains the existence of things qualifies as science and as an explanation
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 286
Does a query (thats a question Stile) that uses this physical reality, to look for an answer to its existence and properties become theoretical, considering its deductive conclusions are based against objective verifiable realities.
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 134

This message is a reply to:
 Message 748 by Faith, posted 11-08-2014 1:26 PM Faith has replied

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Larni
Member (Idle past 185 days)
Posts: 4000
From: Liverpool
Joined: 09-16-2005


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Message 878 of 1309 (741722)
11-14-2014 6:15 AM
Reply to: Message 872 by Faith
11-13-2014 11:03 PM


Some laws are evil and must be disobeyed. To require people to obey them against their conscience is EVIL.
Nots so.
Romans 13:1-7 states, Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and he will commend you. For he is God's servant to do you good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword for nothing. He is God's servant, an agent of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also because of conscience. This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God's servants, who give their full time to governing. Give everyone what you owe him: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor.
Do you see now? God is telling you to obey the secular law of the land.
Or is that part of the Bible you do not follow?
Edited by Larni, : No reason given.

The above ontological example models the zero premise to BB theory. It does so by applying the relative uniformity assumption that the alleged zero event eventually ontologically progressed from the compressed alleged sub-microscopic chaos to bloom/expand into all of the present observable order, more than it models the Biblical record evidence for the existence of Jehovah, the maximal Biblical god designer.
-Attributed to Buzsaw Message 53
The explain to them any scientific investigation that explains the existence of things qualifies as science and as an explanation
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 286
Does a query (thats a question Stile) that uses this physical reality, to look for an answer to its existence and properties become theoretical, considering its deductive conclusions are based against objective verifiable realities.
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 134

This message is a reply to:
 Message 872 by Faith, posted 11-13-2014 11:03 PM Faith has replied

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