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Message 150 of 206 (725395)
04-26-2014 8:37 PM
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04-26-2014 8:20 PM


and of course there is SN1987A
When you write young earth claims broadly across the night sky, they look even more absurd. After all, we're seeing that light now--no historical conjuring or speculation involved.
And we can validate that with the information on distance with SN1987A, and the evidence in the star-light - the adsorption bars of the various elements - show that radioactive decay was occurring there with short age elements being formed and decaying with the same decay rates we see for these elements on earth.
It defies reason to think this is not evidence of an old earth. I wonder if Cosmos will discuss this event (they passed one opportunity already with the neutrino detector discussion).
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Message 160 of 206 (725435)
04-27-2014 7:59 AM
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04-27-2014 3:01 AM


Re: NCSE comments
thank you faith for demonstrating my point

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Message 161 of 206 (725437)
04-27-2014 8:00 AM
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04-27-2014 3:15 AM


Re: NCSE comments
thank you faith for demonstrating my point

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Message 165 of 206 (725465)
04-27-2014 1:25 PM
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04-27-2014 1:00 PM


Another Science Based Show: Years of Living Dangerously
Episode 1
It's about climate change, what is happening and where it is happening ... and why we need to move forward.
Which of course is why we also have:
The brutally dishonest attacks on Showtime’s landmark climate series
quote:
The bad news is the Times has published an error-riddled hit-job op-ed on the series that is filled with myths at odds with both the climate science and social science literature. For instance, the piece repeats the tired and baseless claim that Al Gore’s 2006 movie An Inconvenient Truth polarized the climate debate, when the peer-reviewed data says the polarization really jumped in 2009, as you can see in this chart from The Sociological Quarterly:
Percent of Americans who believe the effects of global warming have already begun to happen, by political ideology, from Aaron M. McCright and Riley E. Dunlap. Click to embiggen[enlarge].
The New York Times op-ed is from the founders of the Breakthrough Institute (BTI) the same group where political scientist Roger Pielke Jr. is a senior fellow. It pushes the same argument that Pielke made in his fivethirtyeight.com piece which was so widely criticized and debunked by climate scientists and others that Nate Silver himself admitted its myriad flaws and ran a response piece by MIT climatologist Kerry Emanuel eviscerating Pielke.
Ted Nordhaus and Michael Shellenberger, two widely debunked eco-critics who run BTI, begin by asserting IF you were looking for ways to increase public skepticism about global warming, you could hardly do better than the forthcoming nine-part series on climate change and natural disasters, starting this Sunday on Showtime. But they never cite anything other than the trailer in making their case, dismissing the entire enterprise on the basis of two minutes of clips!
They base their entire argument on a misrepresentation of climate science and a misrepresentation of social science.
Lots more of debunking of the NYTimes article.
What a surprise. It seems to be a constant in these debates, science vs lies and misinformation based on emotional appeal rather than rebuttals based on evidence.
What's that word again? Fremdschmen? It embarrasses me that it is such a false facade of denial and that the gullible people suck it up.
ps "embiggen" is not a real word people, the word is "enlarge" - more concise as well as meaningful.
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Message 174 of 206 (725611)
04-29-2014 12:59 PM
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04-29-2014 9:57 AM


matrix vs column
... The concept of a single catastrophic transgression is at odds with the coordinated, general geological column.
Perhaps matrix would be a better term than column. As discussed in the Deposition thread (Depositional Models of Sea Transgressions/Regressions - Walther's Law) there is both a vertical and a horizontal component to formation of the geological record, and a "column" section taken in one place doesn't necessarily match the column in another ... but it does fit into a geological matrix of horizontal and vertical elements.
Cross-sectional views also fail to record the full detail of the geological record, so the matrix is 4D (including time)

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Message 176 of 206 (725619)
04-29-2014 3:07 PM
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04-29-2014 2:11 PM


not the topic, not this thread
and another thread gets hijacked.

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Message 177 of 206 (725627)
04-29-2014 5:35 PM
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04-29-2014 3:07 PM


Inner Fish Monkeyshines: NCSE Science League of America
Your Inner Monkeyshines | National Center for Science Education
quote:
Your Inner Monkeyshines
In Your Inner Monkey, the third episode of PBS’s Your Inner Fish, Neil Shubin did his usual globe-trotting to meet interesting scientists and fossils. We learned about how our ancestors gained traits that humans now possessopposable thumbs, finger and toe nails, bipedalism, large brains, and bad backs. It’s a pretty short list (mammary glands were not mentioned) but Shubin gave extensive airtime to visiting two researchers on NCSE’s Advisory Council, Donald Johanson and Tim White.
Again very well done and I am sad that this will be ending.

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