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RAZD Member (Idle past 1405 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
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the new series, where Neil follows and takes up the reins passed to him by Carl Sagen Worth watching. So what do the news outlets focus on Breaking News Stories from US and Around the World | MSN News what it says about religion ... http://www.nbcnews.com/...at-discovery-could-be-yours-n48646 Obama Launches 'Cosmos': 'The Next Great Discovery Could Be Yours That's surely going to rile up the GOP anti-science crowd. Edited by RAZD, : addedby our ability to understand Rebel American Zen Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1405 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Due to the potential for wide ranging discussion, perhaps coffee house would be best
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1405 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Indeed.
Cosmos & the Creationists: Why Some People Hate Science on Television quote: So we can expect a lot of sturm und drang without any real substance ... because some people happen to be outraged by the thought of people being free to think without blinders. by our ability to understand Rebel American Zen Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1405 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
It's more of a revival. Have you watched it yet? (link in Message 1)
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... What was the BBT error. ... What I took away from this was that it was an explosion, there was no mention of expansion or inflation. Nor any discussion of brane-theory (but then I wouldn't expect a review of alternate theories) by our ability to understand Rebel American Zen Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1405 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
For what? Scooby Doo or Cosmos? Both have the same kind of cheap moving cardboard figure "animation" imho. Curiously I keep thinking of Kramer ... by our ability to understand Rebel American Zen Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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Keeping in mind that the average american is undereducated in science, to the point where ~1/4 think the sun orbits the earth.
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Watched the second episode last night, and found it more pedestrian than the first. I liked what he did with the wolves using the evidence from the Russian silver fox experiments.
The graphics for the genetic stuff was entertaining, but Titan seemed a bit of a non-sequitur. by our ability to understand Rebel American Zen Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1405 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined:
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hooah writes: Add some LSD and see if you get the same effect that Wizard of Oz supposedly has. I am sure some Feynman lectures work this way. Everything works that way. Certainly seems to be how a lot of creationism works.
Neil deGrasse Tyson Squashes Creationist Argument Against Science on National TV A little bit hyperbolic, but ...
quote: Not that creationist will pay attention, but one tried (badly)
quote: Now that PDF does contain some rambling arguments about the formation of the eye, but they are all old debunked arguments from incredulity and cite ancient articles instead of modern ones. None of the arguments even come close to demonstrating that they eye could not form by progressive natural means and certainly does not challenge the evidence that it can.
quote: That may be a little bit of hubris, but it certainly is time to move out of the neo-dark ages. Here's another article related to the show:
Neil deGrasse Tyson on "Cosmos," How Science Got Cool, and Why He Doesn't Debate Deniers quote: Hopefully this is a sign that there are a lot of people that are starved for some real scientific knowledge.
quote: So open the windows and let in some fresh air eh? by our ability to understand Rebel American Zen Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1405 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
I spent some time thinking Tyson's words, and I'm going to have to disagree with you on this point. Tyson stuck to the party line on the relationship between guess work, theories and facts. Tyson emphasized in particular, the distinction between guesswork, which is what people mean the criticize evolution as 'being just a theory' and real scientific theory. Whether or not you think he crossed the line when he talked about biological evolution as fact depends quite a bit on how you define theory and fact, and exactly what things about evolution you are talking about Indeed. I like to make the following distinctions in these debates:
Both phyletic speciation and divergent speciation occur through the process of evolution over several generations.
The Theory of Evolution (ToE), stated in simple terms, is that the process of phyletic speciation, and the process of divergent speciation, are sufficient to explain the diversity of life as we know it, from the fossil record, from the genetic record, from the historic record, and from everyday record of the life we observe in the world all around us. This is a testable theory, both via modern studies in the field and in the lab and via studies of the fossil record, and studies of the genetic record. Notes:
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1405 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined:
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Did you catch the Tyson interview on the Colbert Report?
imho he nails it. by our ability to understand Rebel American Zen Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1405 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
I think there will be a price to pay for the no holds bared position on evolution and the origin of the universe. It was not all that long ago that fear of a public backlash prevented any US distributor from taking on the Charles Darwin movie. If that price is a more public discussion of the validity of science versus the ad hoc arguments of religious wing-nuts, then bring it. by our ability to understand Rebel American Zen Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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Creationists Demand Airtime On 'Cosmos' For The Sake Of Balance
quote: Perhaps because they are NOT plausible and reality isn't "fair" to pseudoscientific beliefs? And if Danny wants "fair and balanced" presentation of views, then perhaps he should discuss opening up the AIG pages to actual posts on actual evolution, or to open the Creation "museum" to allow scientific presentation of why they are so wrong. Somehow I don't think that is going to happen ... by our ability to understand Rebel American Zen Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1405 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Science Deniers Are Freaking Out About Cosmos (Bill Moyers)
quote: There is also an interview between Bill Moyers and Neil DeGrasse Tyson. Good stuff. by our ability to understand Rebel American Zen Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1405 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Sadly he did.
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