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Author Topic:   The Divine signature in the Torah
New Cat's Eye
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Message 99 of 139 (721613)
03-10-2014 10:11 AM
Reply to: Message 98 by Eliyahu
03-10-2014 9:46 AM


Isn't that interesting?
Not at all. I didn't even read it. Everyone who isn't a dishonest Jew knows that the "Bible Code" stuff is all a bunch of bullshit.
You just like it because you want to prop up your faith. Unbiased readers realize its a load of crap.

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Message 103 of 139 (721642)
03-10-2014 4:02 PM
Reply to: Message 102 by Eliyahu
03-10-2014 2:40 PM


So, for all intent and purposes, the Torah codes have been scientifically proven, and the debate is over.
You're hilarious!

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New Cat's Eye
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Message 116 of 139 (721682)
03-11-2014 10:42 AM
Reply to: Message 111 by Eliyahu
03-11-2014 3:07 AM


Honest question:
Are there any scientists or mathematicians who support the Bible Codes that aren't Jewish?

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New Cat's Eye
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Message 123 of 139 (721824)
03-12-2014 12:31 PM
Reply to: Message 122 by Taq
03-12-2014 12:03 PM


Re: Bring arguments, don't be just a naysayer
So, was that elephant the product of random, natural processes or was it the product of the divine?
You should know that Eli is a big enough buffoon to go the route of this being a product of the divine. He gone so far to say that nothing exists at all, and that everything is God... or something like that.
Didn't you see him explaining how every table vanishes from existence once you leave the room?

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New Cat's Eye
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Message 125 of 139 (721850)
03-12-2014 3:04 PM
Reply to: Message 124 by Dr Adequate
03-12-2014 1:11 PM


Re: Bring arguments, don't be just a naysayer
I didn't, but that sounds like the sort of thing I would enjoy.
I'm not sure he is even worth mocking.
But here's the message: Message 185
quote:
I'll explain this a bit. A while ago I was having the shabbat dinner in the house of a dutch friend here in the Judean desert. He is married to a russian woman who happens to have a university degree in physics, she is an engineer in physics. After talking to my friend a bit in dutch, I explained to her in Hebrew that I just told my friend that the very solid table from which we were eating, that if we would leave the room, close the door, and then nobody would observe the table, that that table then would go out of existence.
About this her only comment was: "That is correct."

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New Cat's Eye
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Message 127 of 139 (721854)
03-12-2014 4:03 PM
Reply to: Message 126 by Diomedes
03-12-2014 3:54 PM


Re: Bring arguments, don't be just a naysayer
About this her only comment was: "That is correct."
Was her physics degree achieved via mail order? Or maybe she got it at the same school Kent Hovind went to.
I liked Percy's response:
quote:
That's what she said, but what she was thinking was, "If I tell him he's right, maybe he'll shut up."
--Percy

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New Cat's Eye
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Message 129 of 139 (751303)
03-02-2015 9:52 AM
Reply to: Message 128 by porter999
03-01-2015 5:50 AM


Re: on the truth of it by reasoning our only tool
We usually don't just drop bare links around here, its against the rules and it smells like spam.
You'd get more reception if you described what was in the link in your own words here and then supplied the link as a reference.
If anyone lurking wondered what was in the link: Its the account of a creationist turning into an atheists by realizing all the things that they believe about the Bible was wrong. They achieved this by stopping simply believing and actually looking at what the evidence really says. Its addressed to other creationists as a way out of the darkness and into the truth.
It was a decent read, but it was a lot of the same old stuff that we've all seen over the years. Nothing really new in there.

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New Cat's Eye
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Message 131 of 139 (759162)
06-09-2015 12:19 PM
Reply to: Message 130 by mikechell
06-08-2015 3:59 PM


Re: New to the site ....
My problem with any written word conveying the "truth" of a God, is that it is written by man.
Yes, you can argue that it was relayed through "divine intervention," recorded in texts understandable to our eyes. But in the end, some person wrote those words, and there is never a way to prove any of it is actually more than a good story.
Oh, I dunno. If there were prophecies that were actually fulfilled, and were also particularly specific, then that would suggest that there was more going on than just a good story.
Like, if an ancient text predicted that a user named mikechell would post a reply here with the subtitle "New to the site ...." and it would be on 06-08-2015 at 2:59 pm, then wouldn't that prove that it was more than just a good story?

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New Cat's Eye
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Message 133 of 139 (759175)
06-09-2015 2:14 PM
Reply to: Message 132 by ringo
06-09-2015 12:49 PM


Re: New to the site ....
Cat's Eye writes:
Like, if an ancient text predicted that a user named mikechell would post a reply here with the subtitle "New to the site ...." and it would be on 06-08-2015 at 2:59 pm, then wouldn't that prove that it was more than just a good story?
What If I had made that prediction in 2010? How would you know I didn't re-register as mikechell to fulfill my own prophecy?
I wouldn't*.
It also doesn't work when the prophesy is too generic.
*Admin might be able to pull IP addresses and see if your posting from the same location or not

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