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Author Topic:   If our sun is second or third generation, does this not conflict with Genesis ?
shalamabobbi
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Message 151 of 231 (720313)
02-21-2014 2:08 PM
Reply to: Message 139 by Eliyahu
02-21-2014 8:45 AM


Time is relative
Eliyahu writes:
Time is relative. More than half a century after Einstein that should be common knowledge. So there is no problem to squeeze 15 billion years into six days.
Dude you're a genius. I am a believer once again! So which is it? God flies about at very nearly the speed of light, he resides in a very great gravity well, or he is constantly accelerating at a very great rate - while creating?
Thanks for this insight. Are you a preacher as I'd like to join your congregation. You don't serve Kool-Aid do you? Just so we understand each other, I refuse to drink the Kool-Aid.
ETA
There's one tiny problem. The muon will demonstrate it for me. It has a mean lifetime of 2.2 usec. When it is bombarding the earth at relativistic speed it's measured lifetime is longer due to the fact that its clock has slowed in our frame. It lasts 189 times longer.
So god moving at high speed will cause the age of the earth to appear even greater in God's frame then the already long 4.5 billion years.
Edited by shalamabobbi, : No reason given.

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shalamabobbi
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Posts: 397
Joined: 01-10-2009


Message 192 of 231 (720540)
02-25-2014 1:44 AM
Reply to: Message 155 by Eliyahu
02-22-2014 2:31 PM


Re: Time is relative
So you are arguing about time slowed in gravity wells to justify speculation about the passage of time where God exists while creating. Got it.
NoNukes has addressed the issue of order in the Genesis account already which has nothing to do with time relativity.
For example we have from Gen 1:2 that the spirit of God is moving upon the face of the waters.
Then in Gen 1:3 comes the famous "Let there be light."
That should be sufficient to throw a monkey wrench into your trying to make some sort of accord between science & the big bang with Genesis.
Water exists before the creation of light.
You're the one who bogarted the entire pitcher of Kool-Aid so you get to be the one to explain this mystery. I'm all ears. Perhaps another quote from a Rabbi?
(This problem also has absolutely nothing to do with your elaborate abuse of Quantum Mechanics either so please don't go there as I'm out of aspirin at the moment.)

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