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dadman
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Message 46 of 638 (720051)
02-19-2014 11:24 PM
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02-19-2014 11:20 PM


Re: For the last time
btw .. how do you create the quote box ?? ..
I'm new here as you can see ..... do I take it that you have no answer for the third element ?? ..
at this point I'm looking for a yes or no . . .
this is a train of thought / logic . . . it's important not to derail or try to jump too far ahead
. . . patience
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Coyote
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Message 47 of 638 (720052)
02-19-2014 11:33 PM
Reply to: Message 46 by dadman
02-19-2014 11:24 PM


Re: For the last time
The two different quote boxes are formed by "[qs]" and "[/qs]" or "[quote]" and "[/quote]".
Add: also, you can see all formatting in a post by hitting the "Peek" button to the bottom right of the window.
Edited by Coyote, : formatting
Edited by Coyote, : Add

Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.
Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein
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Message 48 of 638 (720053)
02-19-2014 11:35 PM
Reply to: Message 46 by dadman
02-19-2014 11:24 PM


Re: For the last time
To see how anyone does anything, hit the peek button at the bottom of their post, this shows you what they actually typed.
I shall answer your question about the "third element" when I understand it, I always thought the third element was lithium.

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dadman
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Message 49 of 638 (720054)
02-19-2014 11:35 PM
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02-19-2014 11:33 PM


Re: For the last time
I always thought the third element was lithiums
that would be incorrect . . .
would you agree with me that it is now scientifically proven that DNA is (mapped) genetic code ?? .. y/n
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dadman
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Message 50 of 638 (720057)
02-19-2014 11:44 PM
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02-19-2014 11:35 PM


Re: For the last time
would you agree with me that it is now scientifically proven that DNA is (mapped) genetic code ?? .. y/n
I have to leave in 15m . . .
if you're interested I''l try to catch you all here later

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dadman
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Message 51 of 638 (720060)
02-19-2014 11:59 PM
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02-19-2014 11:44 PM


Re: For the last time
would you agree with me that it is now scientifically proven that DNA is (mapped) genetic code ?? .. y/n
it's sounding to me this is a train of thought / logic you fear ?? .. not willing to continue ?? . . . I'll catch you all later .. dadman

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Message 52 of 638 (720063)
02-20-2014 1:22 AM
Reply to: Message 41 by dadman
02-19-2014 11:02 PM


Life
Duplicate post
Edited by Pressie, : Duplicate post

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Message 53 of 638 (720064)
02-20-2014 1:25 AM
Reply to: Message 38 by dadman
02-19-2014 9:17 PM


life
Nope. No such thing. Nothing about three elements.
Life
quote:
Definition
noun, plural: lives
(1) A distinctive characteristic of a living organism from dead organism or non-living thing, as specifically distinguished by the capacity to grow, metabolize, respond (to stimuli), adapt, and reproduce
(2) The biota of a particular region
Supplement
There is no consensus regarding the answer to the question as to when does life begin. Does it begin at the time of fertilization or the time before or after that? The origin of life is also contestable. Despite of the irresolute answer for questions about life, the basic characteristics of a living thing are as follows:
with an organized structure performing a specific function
with an ability to sustain existence, e.g. by nourishment
with an ability to respond to stimuli or to its environment
capable of adapting
with an ability to germinate or reproduce
Word origin: Old English lf (life, body)
Please try to use standard language and meanings of words on this forum. That's the only way we will be able to effectively communicate.
Making up meanings for what you want words to mean won't help anyone.
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Pressie
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Message 54 of 638 (720067)
02-20-2014 2:23 AM
Reply to: Message 46 by dadman
02-19-2014 11:24 PM


Re: For the last time
quote:
I'm new here as you can see ..... do I take it that you have no answer for the third element ?? .. at this point I'm looking for a yes or no . . .
this is a train of thought / logic . . . it's important not to derail or try to jump too far ahead
  —dadman
Actually, you're the one jumping ahead. We're still looking at your first statement on this thread.
It was:
quote:
well .. before you give up .. you might think about (aside from the evolution debate) how it is now scientifically proven that all life is triune and derives from a source of intelligence . . . I would call this going from point A to B
You made a statement. That's it.
We're still trying to get you to provide evidence for that statement. You're jumping the gun.
Who, when, where did anyone got it 'scientifically proven'? Provide references to those studies.
To me you sound so much like the washing powder adverts we see on tv everyday . They all claim that their products are 'scientifically proven' to wash 'the cleanest'. Complete with some random guy in a white coat; and with thick Harry Potter glasses covering their eyes; putting washing powder into some machine.
Yet, they never produce those studies when asked for them...
So, return to your first claim. Provide reliable sources so that we can investigate them.
You are jumping the gun. Without those studies you're just doing another Gish Gallop.
Edited by Pressie, : Spelling, amongst others
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dadman
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From: wichita Kansas USA
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Message 55 of 638 (720092)
02-20-2014 10:13 AM
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02-20-2014 2:23 AM


Re: For the last time
obviously I'm running into some egg-heads who think they're scientifically minded who are unable to follow a train of thought / logic . . . . no, I won't waste time with such individuals . . . thank you for your divided attention .... ... dadman
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dadman
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From: wichita Kansas USA
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Message 56 of 638 (720192)
02-20-2014 6:27 PM
Reply to: Message 54 by Pressie
02-20-2014 2:23 AM


Re: For the last time
We're still trying to get you to provide evidence for that statement. You're jumping the gun
not at all . . . you still haven't displayed the third element .. hint: .. it has nothing to do with matter or energy

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RAZD
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Message 57 of 638 (720193)
02-20-2014 6:51 PM
Reply to: Message 56 by dadman
02-20-2014 6:27 PM


Re: For the last time -- don't let the door hit you ...
We're still trying to get you to provide evidence for that statement. You're jumping the gun
not at all . . . you still haven't displayed the third element .. hint: .. it has nothing to do with matter or energy
You'll probably say "intelligence" when you finally get around to it.
But of course all you have are assertions rather than facts, or you would be able to provide them ... and I'll bet you don't really want to debate your position.
So if you leave it is no loss.
Enjoy.
[blockcolor=navy]... as you are new here, some posting tips:
type [qs]quotes are easy[/qs] and it becomes:
quotes are easy
or type [quote]quotes are easy[/quote] and it becomes:
quote:
quotes are easy

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dadman
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Message 58 of 638 (720196)
02-20-2014 7:13 PM
Reply to: Message 57 by RAZD
02-20-2014 6:51 PM


shall we continue ??
and I'll bet you don't really want to debate your position
sure I do . . . as soon as you can display the 3rd element or admit you do not know (that's okay) we can continue . . . as I have stated before .. this is an exercise in scientific logic and reason .. not to be derailed or diverted . . . peace & love

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RAZD
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Message 59 of 638 (720198)
02-20-2014 7:29 PM
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02-20-2014 7:13 PM


will you?
and I'll bet you don't really want to debate your position
sure I do . . . as soon as you can display the 3rd element or admit you do not know (that's okay) we can continue . . . as I have stated before .. this is an exercise in scientific logic and reason .. not to be derailed or diverted . . . peace & love
I'm thinking of a number between 1 and 10 and when you guess it we can move on ... and I'll let you have 10 guesses.
No, you want to play games. Let me know when you get around to something to debate.
Enjoy
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dadman
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Message 60 of 638 (720199)
02-20-2014 7:35 PM
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02-20-2014 7:29 PM


shall we continue ???
No, you want to play games. Let me know when you get around to something to debate
I do believe your pride and your unwillingness to admit you do not know the 3rd element has derailed you . . . science is indeed very interesting .. especially when you have the courage to follow it to its logical conclusion . . . you'll need patience and an attention span

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