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New Cat's Eye Inactive Member |
so you see that evolutionists put the bedrock of their belief on the material world. No, you see, that's materialists. There are also non-materialists who are evolutionists.
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Larni Member (Idle past 164 days) Posts: 4000 From: Liverpool Joined: |
So, magical thinking, then?
If not, why not? All the best. The above ontological example models the zero premise to BB theory. It does so by applying the relative uniformity assumption that the alleged zero event eventually ontologically progressed from the compressed alleged sub-microscopic chaos to bloom/expand into all of the present observable order, more than it models the Biblical record evidence for the existence of Jehovah, the maximal Biblical god designer. -Attributed to Buzsaw Message 53 The explain to them any scientific investigation that explains the existence of things qualifies as science and as an explanation-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 286 Does a query (thats a question Stile) that uses this physical reality, to look for an answer to its existence and properties become theoretical, considering its deductive conclusions are based against objective verifiable realities.-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 134
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Larni Member (Idle past 164 days) Posts: 4000 From: Liverpool Joined: |
i'm not a robot destined to die in the ground and the dust of myself is dust but my soul lives eternally and is internally recognized by Christ's death and intuition reveals his selfhood to be true as a living parasitic organism in my heart dictating my moves and ideas and actions and thoughts and sins and forgiveness in the world What evidence do you have to support this assertion? All the best. The above ontological example models the zero premise to BB theory. It does so by applying the relative uniformity assumption that the alleged zero event eventually ontologically progressed from the compressed alleged sub-microscopic chaos to bloom/expand into all of the present observable order, more than it models the Biblical record evidence for the existence of Jehovah, the maximal Biblical god designer. -Attributed to Buzsaw Message 53 The explain to them any scientific investigation that explains the existence of things qualifies as science and as an explanation-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 286 Does a query (thats a question Stile) that uses this physical reality, to look for an answer to its existence and properties become theoretical, considering its deductive conclusions are based against objective verifiable realities.-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 134
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Percy Member Posts: 22391 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 5.2
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Kierkegaard writes: so you see that evolutionists put the bedrock of their belief on the material world. Uh, no. When I play Monopoly, I play by the rules of Monopoly, and when I play chess I play by the rules of chess. I do not play by the rules of Monopoly when I play chess, nor vice versa. It would make no sense. In the same way, when I try to understand the natural world I apply the rules of the natural world, and when I try to understand the spiritual world I apply the rules of the spiritual world (which are much less precise and have no consensus, but that's another matter). I do not apply the rules of the natural world when trying to understand the spiritual world, nor vice versa. It would make no sense. Those who think there is no natural world and no spiritual world, just one world with one set of rules - well, good luck with that. It makes as much sense as combining Monopoly and chess. --Percy
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Modulous Member Posts: 7801 From: Manchester, UK Joined: |
I thank you for this reply And I thank you for yours.
so you see that evolutionists put the bedrock of their belief on the material world. Evolution is a material theory about material things. What else should they base their beliefs about material things in the material world on?
they live and die by the codification, evidence, edification, fossils, geology, spectroscope of the material world. No they don't. They simply think that when describing the material world, one should refer to the material world. To say they 'live and die' by it, implies zealotry rather than adopting a consistent approach to studying the material world.
but man is the namer, the adam, the one who ascribes value and meaning to the world often through intuition and this intuition breeds god and Christ and savior and fate and heaven and hell and the alpha and omega and the rapture and the one true holy apostolic church Nobody is stopping you from ascribing value and meaning to the fact that life changes over time as a result of imperfect replication that is directed by the mathematics of differential reproductive success.
i'm not a robot destined to die in the ground and the dust of myself is dust but my soul lives eternally and is internally recognized by Christ's death and intuition reveals his selfhood to be true as a living parasitic organism in my heart dictating my moves and ideas and actions and thoughts and sins and forgiveness in the world I don't believe you. And you wouldn't believe someone saying almost the same thing about Muhammed and Allah. I refer you to Ecclesiastes 3:18-21. Edited by Modulous, : No reason given.
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onifre Member (Idle past 2951 days) Posts: 4854 From: Dark Side of the Moon Joined: |
What evidence do you have to support this assertion? He was clear about it: intuition. You know, that old relable "gut feeling" of just knowing something you want to be right is right. I rather enjoyed this bit:
i'm not a robot destined to die in the ground He sees himself more as the robot who gets sent back to sender. To then worship said sender for ever and ever. - Oni
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ringo Member (Idle past 412 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Kierkegaard writes:
I'm currently 25.Kierkegaard writes:
In some ways, I'm a worse human.Kierkegaard writes:
When I was 25 I was a worse human than I am now. Being a good human takes a lifetime of practice.
That's my life in a nutshell.
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Larni Member (Idle past 164 days) Posts: 4000 From: Liverpool Joined: |
I was a bit of an idiot at 25.
I hope I'm less so now, but who can tell?The above ontological example models the zero premise to BB theory. It does so by applying the relative uniformity assumption that the alleged zero event eventually ontologically progressed from the compressed alleged sub-microscopic chaos to bloom/expand into all of the present observable order, more than it models the Biblical record evidence for the existence of Jehovah, the maximal Biblical god designer. -Attributed to Buzsaw Message 53 The explain to them any scientific investigation that explains the existence of things qualifies as science and as an explanation-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 286 Does a query (thats a question Stile) that uses this physical reality, to look for an answer to its existence and properties become theoretical, considering its deductive conclusions are based against objective verifiable realities.-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 134
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Trump won  Suspended Member (Idle past 1240 days) Posts: 1928 Joined:
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jesus christ
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9076 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.7 |
That isn't evidence. It is myth. Unless you have objective verifiable evidence of course
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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Phat Member Posts: 18262 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
not all beliefs are myths.
It is rare for a belief to be evidenced. Evidence is not the only thing to base choices on.
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Larni Member (Idle past 164 days) Posts: 4000 From: Liverpool Joined: |
What evidence do you have for this assertion?
The above ontological example models the zero premise to BB theory. It does so by applying the relative uniformity assumption that the alleged zero event eventually ontologically progressed from the compressed alleged sub-microscopic chaos to bloom/expand into all of the present observable order, more than it models the Biblical record evidence for the existence of Jehovah, the maximal Biblical god designer. -Attributed to Buzsaw Message 53 The explain to them any scientific investigation that explains the existence of things qualifies as science and as an explanation-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 286 Does a query (thats a question Stile) that uses this physical reality, to look for an answer to its existence and properties become theoretical, considering its deductive conclusions are based against objective verifiable realities.-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 134
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9076 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.7
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But unless you or he can provide the evidence a rational course would be to put that belief into the realm of myth. Then again religious belief is not based on rational thought.
not all beliefs are myths. No kidding. But unless there is evidence they can be relegated to the realm of myth. Why is your JC dude any less a myth than Zoroaster? or maybe even Confucious?
It is rare for a belief to be evidenced.
Not at all. Most of the things I believe in are evidenced. There are very few unevidenced things I believe. Maybe that is part of your inner turmoil.
Evidence is not the only thing to base choices on. Maybe not, but outcomes are much better when you base choices on evidence. Just sayin.Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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onifre Member (Idle past 2951 days) Posts: 4854 From: Dark Side of the Moon Joined: |
It is rare for a belief to be evidenced. It's 7 degrees outside. I believe it's going to be quite cold.
Evidence is not the only thing to base choices on. I'll choose to wear my heavy coat. Evidence might not be the only thing to base a choice on for some, sure. I mean, you can always just freeze your ass off outside. - Oni
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dronestar Member Posts: 1407 From: usa Joined: |
RingO writes: Being a good human takes a lifetime of practice. But being a reaaaaly bad human takes a lifetime of religious practice. signed,Pope Innocent III, David Ernest Duke, Pope Lucius III, Toms de Torquemada, Jim Jones, Bush Jr., et al.
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