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RAZD Member (Idle past 1425 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined:
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indeed, however I have a bigger question for you
If Caused By Flood Drainage Why is the Grand Canyon Where It IS?:Why does the canyon cross two high ridges when paths north and south are at lower elevations?
The darker green is higher than the lighter green, the red outlines would be the topographic level dividing dark from light. So IF the canyon is formed by catastrophic flood flows draining the purported WWF, then
And why does the canyon cross higher land than either of these two paths? Enjoy Edited by RAZD, : piclinkby our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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roxrkool Member (Idle past 1008 days) Posts: 1497 From: Nevada Joined: |
That makes absolutely no sense, Faith. Are you suggesting the canyon is evolving independently from the river?
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1464 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I give up. If I keep coming back here I'll go stark raving bonkers or have a stroke or something.
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Percy Member Posts: 22478 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.7
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Just to help Faith understand the scale, the width of this meander is about one mile:
Also, Faith, if you click on the image to blow it up to full size and focus in on the high point on the inside of the meander you'll see that the slope descends from the peak in a series of ridges. Each ridge is covered with scree which has eroded from the ridges above. Each ridge represents a former level of the river. The river erodes to a lower level as the region uplifts. The exposed levels of the riverbank are subjected to the erosion and gradually retreat from the edge of the river. The longer the edges of the riverbank are exposed to erosion the more they retreat from the edge of the river. The highest levels have been exposed the longest and so have retreated the furthest. It takes a great deal of time for rock to erode away. The great amount of slope retreat shown in this image is more and very obvious evidence for an ancient river. --Percy
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1464 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I don't believe it. Shall I scream and tear my hair out?
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1425 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
cognitive dissonance causes discomfort when strong beliefs run counter to facts.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1464 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
The level of delusion here is beyond belief.
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Percy Member Posts: 22478 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.7 |
Faith writes: I give up. If I keep coming back here I'll go stark raving bonkers or have a stroke or something. What you had said that RoxRKool questioned was this in Message 882:
Faith in Message 882 writes: This is ridiculous. Your pictures of the CANYON's meandering are taken from high above, showing miles of the canyon. They do NOT show the tight HAIRPIN turns that the RIVER takes. A GIANT hairpin turn in the CANYON is NOT the same thing as a hairpin turn in the RIVER. The RIVER and the CANYON are two different things. The reason RoxRKool said this makes no sense is because the river carves the canyon. A canyon carved into rock is a record of the river eroding downward into an uplifting region for thousands and millions of years. The reason the canyon is so much wider than the river is because of slope retreat, which also takes a very long time. And as I pointed out in Message 889, the width of this meander is about one mile, showing the river *and* the canyon taking the very same (in your words) "tight HAIRPIN turn":
A mile is about on the same scale as the meanders for any river, which poking around a bit seem to range in width from a few hundred feet to a couple miles. --Percy
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Percy Member Posts: 22478 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.7
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Faith writes: I don't believe it. Shall I scream and tear my hair out? I would suggest examining the evidence and seeking explanations consistent with physical laws and what we already know about the way nature behaves. --Percy
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Percy Member Posts: 22478 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.7 |
Faith writes: The level of delusion here is beyond belief. You know, it seems kind of ridiculous that you should be in this thread all by yourself. Bolder-dash and Marc9000 recently checked in after long hiatuses over at the The smoldering of EVC thread, and Marc even commented about what he felt was shabby treatment of you. Why don't you PM them and see if they'll help you out here? --Percy
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1464 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Hilarious!
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1464 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Ha ha ha ha ha ha! You are SOOOOOOO funny.
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Atheos canadensis Member (Idle past 3017 days) Posts: 141 Joined:
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If you look at the satellite photo I provided you can see both large-scale meanders and small-scale meanders. Note the small-scale (relatively speaking) meanders Percy and others have posted. I'm sure you aren't arguing that the canyon doesn't meander because there is photographic proof before your eyes that it does. I think you have accepted (or at least are beginning to accept) that the Flood could not have produced such meanders and that is why you are trying to minimize them. But the meanders of the GC, both large and small, show that the Flood did not create it and by extension that the earth is not young.
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Percy Member Posts: 22478 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.7
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Suggestion for your new avatar:
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1464 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Oh balderdash. The river created the meanders, the river was the last stage, it was left over from the Flood, it was not the Flood. What is the matter with you people?
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