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Author Topic:   Hey, Young-Earth Creationists: Dig This!
Coyote
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Message 1 of 7 (710570)
11-06-2013 9:14 PM


Hey, Young-Earth Creationists: Dig This!
The young-Earthers insist that the Earth is only about 6,000 years old. Their evidence is the bible, as interpreted by the Ussher chronology. However, since the work of pioneering geologists like James Hutton, educated people have recognized that the Earth is far older.
...
Today we present more problems for the young-Earthers. At the website of PhysOrg we found this: The oldest ice core: Finding a 1.5 million-year record of Earth’s climate. It says, with a bit of bold font added by us for emphasis:
How far into the past can ice-core records go? Scientists have now identified regions in Antarctica they say could store information about Earth’s climate and greenhouse gases extending as far back as 1.5 million years, almost twice as old as the oldest ice core drilled to date.
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What is to be done about a segment of society a large segment that refuses to recognize reality? Our answer is nothing. If they leave us alone, we should leave them alone. If they get aggressive and try to force their dogma upon us, then uncompromising resistance is essential.
Read the rest here, at the Sensuous Curmudgeon's blog:
Hey, Young-Earth Creationists: Dig This! | The Sensuous Curmudgeon

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yenmor
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Message 2 of 7 (710585)
11-07-2013 7:39 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Coyote
11-06-2013 9:14 PM


Last-Thursdayism.

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frako
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Message 3 of 7 (710589)
11-07-2013 8:24 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Coyote
11-06-2013 9:14 PM


That is just Satan's propaganda in the words of Chief Justice Antonin Scalia: the devil got wilier.

Christianity, One woman's lie about an affair that got seriously out of hand
What are the Christians gonna do to me ..... Forgive me, good luck with that.

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Diomedes
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Message 4 of 7 (710596)
11-07-2013 9:49 AM
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11-06-2013 9:14 PM


Yah, but you are using that 'sciency' stuff. And we know that Ice Core analysis is JUST A THEORY.
And YEC weren't much for book learnin' anyway.

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Message 5 of 7 (710611)
11-07-2013 11:04 AM


Years were shorter then.

Life, don't talk to me about life - Marvin the Paranoid Android

  
AZPaul3
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Message 6 of 7 (710617)
11-07-2013 1:02 PM
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11-07-2013 8:24 AM


Chief Justice Antonin Scalia
Small correction because I'm a picayune ass. Scalia is not the Chief Justice, just a justice.
John Roberts is the Chief Justice of the United States. The remaining members of the Supreme Court are titled "Associate Justice."
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RAZD
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Message 7 of 7 (710661)
11-08-2013 9:17 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Coyote
11-06-2013 9:14 PM


Get Texas out of textbooks.
What is to be done about a segment of society a large segment that refuses to recognize reality? Our answer is nothing. If they leave us alone, we should leave them alone. If they get aggressive and try to force their dogma upon us, then uncompromising resistance is essential.
The problem though, is that many people in congress fall into that category and they are making decisions (or the lack of decisions) based on their false beliefs that affect the rest of us.
The problem is that YEC beliefs bring with them a general scientific illiteracy that affects how they view science.
Climate change denial is the most obvious one of these false beliefs affecting legislation and action (or lack thereof), but young earth beliefs are also involved.
That people with such beliefs are on committees for science, or that they want to review scientific grants is another example.
No, the answer is not to do nothing, the answer is to educate the mass numbers of scientifically illiterate people in this country, and to require some basic knowledge of reality in our representatives. The answer is to push back against all attempts to further dumb-down our education system, and require scientific literacy for graduation.
Get Texas out of textbooks.
Enjoy
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