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Author Topic:   Islamophobia or a real reason to fear?
AZPaul3
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Message 5 of 21 (710365)
11-04-2013 9:32 PM
Reply to: Message 4 by jar
11-04-2013 8:13 PM


Re: crazy folk are crazy
Don't miss the point being made here. These are not fundamentalist moslems vis-a-vis fundamentalist christians. These are the mainstream moslems.
Where the larger community of mainstream christians and jews repudiate the excess bloodshed of, say, Leviticus, the larger community of mainstream moslems would never consider repudiating anything in the koran. To do so is apostasy punishable by death, which seems to be the preferred punishment for just about everything in the religion of peace.

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AZPaul3
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Message 8 of 21 (710382)
11-05-2013 3:05 AM
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11-04-2013 10:04 PM


Re: crazy folk are crazy
How do you think those mainstream Christians would respond?
You've never been to a Baptist Convention have you.
But I understand your point. Peer pressure is powerful.
But so is the prevailing view of the moslem majority that the koran is sacred and cannot be challenged. It will make them feel bad and sick at heart but the stoning is an order from god and must be obeyed. This is not radical, this is mainstream.
Talk to a moslem. Know from their own words.

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AZPaul3
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Message 12 of 21 (710392)
11-05-2013 7:44 AM
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11-05-2013 6:29 AM


Re: crazy folk are crazy
In a past life I spent many months, off and on, in Detroit where I had contact with one our largest moslem communities. What I experienced was a welcome, open, hospitable community of normal everyday people. But, when it came to the koran there was no choice but to accept that it was god's word and must be obeyed in all things. These were not radical acolytes wearing their religion on their sleeves the way we see the evangelicals and orthodox jews. They were the rank and file, the laity of the mosque.
Being in eastern Europe you have probably seen more. I do not mean to start a tussle of dueling dictionaries but if I may ask
Never met one that endorsed stoning, though.
endorsed or reluctantly condoned?
I wish we had some moslems in this EvC community for such discussions.

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