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Topic: Skull of Homo erectus throws story of human evolution into disarray
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iano
Member (Idle past 1941 days) Posts: 6165 From: Co. Wicklow, Ireland. Joined: 07-27-2005
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Message 1 of 10 (709008)
10-18-2013 7:34 PM
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Came across this article being reported widely on this side of the pond and thought of EvC. Can't see a topic covering it so thought to give a heads up in case anyone would like to discuss it. Guardian report here
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Admin
Director Posts: 12998 From: EvC Forum Joined: 06-14-2002 Member Rating: 2.3
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Message 2 of 10 (709010)
10-19-2013 8:00 AM
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Thread Copied from Proposed New Topics Forum
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Coyote
Member (Idle past 2106 days) Posts: 6117 Joined: 01-12-2008
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Message 3 of 10 (709027)
10-19-2013 10:07 AM
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No big deal
This kind of reduction in perceived species is nothing new. If I recall from grad school (a while back) Simpson once examined all of the Miocene primate evidence and drastically reduced the number of perceived species to just a few. This is all a normal part of science; as the evidence accumulates it can be better and more accurately understood. Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge. Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers
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frako
Member (Idle past 306 days) Posts: 2932 From: slovenija Joined: 09-04-2010
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Message 4 of 10 (709030)
10-19-2013 11:13 AM
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Reply to: Message 3 by Coyote 10-19-2013 10:07 AM
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Re: No big deal
Typical evolutionists trying to apologise for a theory that failed the test of science LOL You wouldn't believe what this news headline called out from the crepes of the abyss on our news forums. Everything from ancient allies believers to creationists and me screaming o the humanity what have you done to our education system to produce these morons.
Christianity, One woman's lie about an affair that got seriously out of hand What are the Christians gonna do to me ..... Forgive me, good luck with that.
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PaulK
Member Posts: 17822 Joined: 01-10-2003 Member Rating: 2.2
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Message 5 of 10 (709031)
10-19-2013 11:29 AM
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Reply to: Message 3 by Coyote 10-19-2013 10:07 AM
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Re: No big deal
Yes, this is just more evidence in an argument that has been going on some time, the possible merging of habilis into erectus is the only thing I can see that would be really significant.
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AZPaul3
Member Posts: 8513 From: Phoenix Joined: 11-06-2006 Member Rating: 5.3
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Message 6 of 10 (709061)
10-20-2013 8:01 AM
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Reply to: Message 5 by PaulK 10-19-2013 11:29 AM
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Re: No big deal
Creationists should hate this news. If a bunch of now species are folded into one this will drastically reduce the number of human evolution's missing links.
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nwr
Member Posts: 6408 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: 08-08-2005 Member Rating: 5.1
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Message 7 of 10 (709071)
10-20-2013 10:58 AM
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Reply to: Message 6 by AZPaul3 10-20-2013 8:01 AM
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Re: No big deal
Creationists should hate this news. Let's see how a creationist would think about this: - Evolutionists did not predict this;
- therefore evolution fails yet again;
- therefore evolution is refuted;
- therefore creationism is proved true.
I don't think you understand creationists. Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity
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Tangle
Member Posts: 9489 From: UK Joined: 10-07-2011 Member Rating: 4.9
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Message 8 of 10 (709072)
10-20-2013 11:35 AM
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Yeh, but it's still a human.... Life, don't talk to me about life - Marvin the Paranoid Android
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PaulK
Member Posts: 17822 Joined: 01-10-2003 Member Rating: 2.2
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Message 9 of 10 (709077)
10-20-2013 2:27 PM
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An informed expert's views
The sensationalist idea of the skull "throwing the story of human evolution into disarray" is "nonsense".
The new skull from Dmansi Plenty to get your teeth into.
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AZPaul3
Member Posts: 8513 From: Phoenix Joined: 11-06-2006 Member Rating: 5.3
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Message 10 of 10 (709130)
10-21-2013 8:51 PM
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Reply to: Message 7 by nwr 10-20-2013 10:58 AM
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Re: No big deal
I don't think you understand creationists. Oh, that is an understatement. There are a lot of us here that are totally bemused (and amused) by the breed.
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