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New Cat's Eye
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Message 76 of 87 (704924)
08-20-2013 2:13 PM
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08-19-2013 4:49 PM


Re: yahweh + hadad + el = one
Eliyahu writes:
GOD IS ONE

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Message 77 of 87 (705195)
08-24-2013 11:22 AM
Reply to: Message 76 by New Cat's Eye
08-20-2013 2:13 PM


Re: yahweh + hadad + el = one
God is one.
For sure.
We all bow down to this god of the living sooner or later, because death is inevitable.
And, by our behaviors, we can even chance making life shorter by ignoring this God which is the mysterious force behind the Change which unfolds the next frame of the Reality which sires Truth.
But it is the grace of this Reality, that Truth is necessarily sired in it's wake.
Truth is light and the way into the sanity of living with and co-existing in Reality.
Truth saves us from the insanity of creating Fantasy Worlds which Reality will destroy ,sooner or later for us, as if jealous of the competition.
What has always confused the Jews here was, that for man, Truth is total and absolutely indistinguishable from Reality.
Man has the ability to see the face of Truth, but never the actual face of Reality.
Hence Truth is the interlocutor or High Priest go-between for man. Truth speaks for the god, Reality, and saves us from the error of lies about the facts of life.
Edited by kofh2u, : No reason given.

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Message 78 of 87 (708949)
10-17-2013 12:01 AM
Reply to: Message 67 by Eliyahu
08-16-2013 1:51 AM


Re: GOD IS ONE!!!
Does the Shema (Deut 6:4) Prove There are No Other gods?
Bs'd
No. The Shma proves God is one.
For there not being any other Gods than Y-H-W-H we have other texts:
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Deuteronomy 4:35 You were shown these things so that you might know that Y-H-W-H is God; besides him there is no other.
Deuteronomy 4:39 Acknowledge and take to heart this day that Y-H-W-H is God in heaven above and on the earth below. There is no other.
II Samuel 7:22 How great you are, O Sovereign Y-H-W-H! There is no one like you, and there is no God but you, as we have heard with our own ears.
I Kings 8:60 so that all the peoples of the earth may know that Y-H-W-H is God and that there is no other.
I Chronicles 17:20 There is no one like you, O Y-H-W-H, and there is no God but you, as we have heard with our own ears.
II Chronicles 6:14 O Y-H-W-H, God of Israel, there is no God like you in heaven or on earth.
Nehemiah 9:6 You alone are Y-H-W-H.
Isaiah 45:21-23 You are my witnesses," declares Y-H-W-H, "and my servant whom I have chosen, so that you may know and believe me and understand that I am he. Before me no god was formed, nor will there be one after me."
Isaiah 44:6 This is what Y-H-W-H says- Israel's King and Redeemer, Y-H-W-H Almighty: I am the first and I am the last; apart from me there is no God.
Isaiah 45:5-6 I am Y-H-W-H , and there is no other; apart from me there is no God. I will strengthen you, though you have not acknowledged me, so that from the rising of the sun to the place of its setting men may know there is none besides me."
Isaiah 45:21-23 Declare what is to be, present it- let them take counsel together. Who foretold this long ago, who declared it from the distant past? Was it not I, Y-H-W-H? And there is no God apart from me, a righteous God and a Savior; there is none but me. Turn to me and be saved, all you ends of the earth; for I am God, and there is no other.
Joel 2:27 Then you will know that I am in Israel, that I am Y-H-W-H your God, and that there is no other;
Exodus 20:1-3 And God spoke all these words: "I am Y-H-W-H your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery. YOU SHALL HAVE NO OTHER GODS BEFORE ME.
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In the service of Y-H-W-H,
Eliyahu, light unto the nations
"Hear Israel, Y-H-W-H is our God, Y-H-W-H is ONE!"
Deut 6:4
"All the peoples walk each in the name of his god, but as for us; we will walk in the name of Y-H-W-H our God forever and ever!"
Micah 4:5
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Message 79 of 87 (709014)
10-19-2013 8:36 AM
Reply to: Message 78 by Eliyahu
10-17-2013 12:01 AM


Re: GOD IS ONE!!!
just out of curiosity---who taught you this stuff? I wont criticize them---i just want to know. Is it a church? a group? an individual?

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Message 80 of 87 (709020)
10-19-2013 9:23 AM
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10-19-2013 8:36 AM


Re: GOD IS ONE!!!
Phat, Do you not recognize Judaism when you see it? No church. Try synagogue.

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Message 81 of 87 (709022)
10-19-2013 9:37 AM
Reply to: Message 80 by AZPaul3
10-19-2013 9:23 AM


Re: GOD IS ONE!!!
More likely Jehovah's Witness.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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GDR
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Message 82 of 87 (709026)
10-19-2013 9:48 AM
Reply to: Message 78 by Eliyahu
10-17-2013 12:01 AM


Re: GOD IS ONE!!!
Eliyahu writes:
For there not being any other Gods than Y-H-W-H we have other texts:
Hi Eliyahu
Here is my understanding as a Christian of how the notion of there being One God holds true for Christianity as well as Judaism. There is one God, God the Father. In the Book of John he starts it out as talking about in the beginning was the "Word" and so on. Jesus then was the incarnate "Word of God". Just as the ancient Jews unerstood Yahweh as being incarnate in the Temple Christians understood Yahweh as being incarnate in Jesus, through His Holy Spirit.
Jesus was Jewish. Jesus prayed the Psalms and prayed to the Father who was of course Yahweh. It is Christian belief that Jesus
ascended to the Father and fulfilled the role of the "Son of Man" as per Daniel 7.
In a very real sense Christianity is truly a Jewish sect but we just haven't quite come to an agreement yet on the messianic thing. There is so much more that brings us together that there is that separates us.
May Yahweh bless you.

He has told you, O man, what is good ; And what does the LORD require of you But to do justice, to love kindness, And to walk humbly with your God.
Micah 6:8

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Message 83 of 87 (709043)
10-19-2013 6:49 PM
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10-19-2013 9:37 AM


Re: GOD IS ONE!!!
More likely Jehovah's Witness.
Except for the "Y-H-W-H" part instead of "Johovah" I could buy into that.

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Message 84 of 87 (709044)
10-19-2013 10:00 PM
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10-19-2013 6:49 PM


Re: GOD IS ONE!!!
Except for the "Y-H-W-H" part instead of "Johovah" I could buy into that.
That and the fact that the OP is pretty much a one trick pony. I think the overwhelming majority of his posts are about either the Trinity or Jesus being a false Messiah. I don't think JW's are likely to bother with the later.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
I believe that a scientist looking at nonscientific problems is just as dumb as the next guy.
Richard P. Feynman
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass

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Message 85 of 87 (709048)
10-19-2013 10:54 PM
Reply to: Message 78 by Eliyahu
10-17-2013 12:01 AM


Re: GOD IS ONE!!!
Completely off the topic here but does "Bs'd" mean something like "God wills it"?

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Message 86 of 87 (709049)
10-19-2013 11:19 PM
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10-19-2013 10:54 PM


Re: GOD IS ONE!!!
Completely off the topic here but does "Bs'd" mean something like "God wills it"?
Kind of, sort of, maybe.
Besiyata Dishmaya - Wikipedia
Usually used solely by orthodox jews in my experience, but I have seen it used by some christian sects. Most notably Messianic Judaism, which isn't Judaism at all.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Message 87 of 87 (709051)
10-19-2013 11:57 PM
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10-19-2013 11:19 PM


Re: GOD IS ONE!!!
Thanks man. I keep forgetting that my computer knows everything.

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