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ringo
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Message 302 of 457 (708396)
10-09-2013 12:18 PM 		Reply to: Message 292 by Faith
10-08-2013 5:14 PM

Re: Creationists disagree about which words they are allowed to use
Faith writes:
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But it doesn't matter to me how a creationist uses or misuses the word "Triassic", he's wrong to use it at all.
If you were wrong, how would you know?
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Mat 7:3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
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Message 326 of 457 (708473)
10-10-2013 1:43 PM 		Reply to: Message 309 by Faith
10-09-2013 8:56 PM

Re: Environment-driven evolution
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I think it ought to be considered on topic to try to answer the accusation that macroevolution is continuous with microevolution.
Well, small is continuous with big, isn't it? We see small things grow into big things all the time. We see small changes become big changes all the time.
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What is on topic is the question of WTF makes creationists think otherwise. We keep asking them to show us the line between small and big, what stops small from becoming big, but they have no answer.
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Message 330 of 457 (708484)
10-10-2013 2:30 PM 		Reply to: Message 328 by Faith
10-10-2013 2:25 PM

Re: Environment-driven evolution
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You have the most amazing talent for misreading me.
The irony is that everybody seems to be misreading you. Is it possible that you're the one who's miswriting?
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Message 333 of 457 (708487)
10-10-2013 2:36 PM 		Reply to: Message 329 by Faith
10-10-2013 2:29 PM

Re: Environment-driven evolution
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I've answered this many times and have been answering it all along in this thread.
Don't be shy about repeating yourself. What's the specific barrier that prevents all possible macroevolution? (And why is it that you know about it but the biologists don't?)
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I'm not asking for your coulda/woulda/shoulda speculations. Show us the experiments that have been done to demonstrate the barrier.
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Message 334 of 457 (708488)
10-10-2013 2:38 PM 		Reply to: Message 332 by Faith
10-10-2013 2:36 PM

Re: Environment-driven evolution
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PaulK has a peculiarly excellent ability to misread me; the rest of you are rank amateurs by comparison.
So there's still no possibility of any imperfection on your part?
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ringo
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Message 336 of 457 (708490)
10-10-2013 2:44 PM 		Reply to: Message 335 by Faith
10-10-2013 2:40 PM

Re: Environment-driven evolution
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I'm sure there are many ways my argument could be improved, but all I have is what I have and I'm doing the best I can with it.
The problem is that you're doing very badly and you're blaming everybody but yourself. And you have the gall to call us arrogant. You don't just have a beam in your eye; you have a house in your eye and you're rapidly buildng it into a town.
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Message 381 of 457 (708688)
10-12-2013 11:53 AM 		Reply to: Message 375 by Faith
10-11-2013 6:12 PM

Re: Environment-driven evolution
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There is no point in referring me to a technical paper full of terminological mystifications.
As my father used to say to people like you, "Don't confuse you will facts."
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Message 450 of 457 (708973)
10-17-2013 11:43 AM 		Reply to: Message 446 by Faith
10-16-2013 2:43 PM

Re: My summary
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As long as science continues to be co-opted to the ToE and people want to believe it as apparently so many do, it will maintain its illusion as scientific.
An illusion that works is called "reality".
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