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Author Topic:   Need your input and advice on software
yenmor
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Message 1 of 19 (706869)
09-18-2013 10:19 PM


So, I've been working on a software project as a hobby. Well, it's more like an addiction. I would link you to the website that I've created for this project, but that could been seen as soliciting. So, I'm just going to post screenshots here. And to be clear, I'm not here to sell. Just looking for feedback and suggestions.
Anyway, I know there are biologists and chemists here. I need your criticisms on this program/app and suggestions on what I could do next.
So far, I've built the app in both windows 8 metro (touch friendly) and desktop windows. Here's a screenshot of the desktop version.
The tablet version of it is pretty much the same except it's got an awesome periodic table.
Anyway, anyone here want to test my program out and give me some feedback, please tell me and I'll email you a download link.
Thanks.

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yenmor
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Message 3 of 19 (706873)
09-18-2013 10:32 PM
Reply to: Message 2 by New Cat's Eye
09-18-2013 10:25 PM


CS writes:
*ABE: wait, did you already change the image file?
Yes, I put a black bar over the taskbar.
ABE2: we don't have Windows 8, is that a problem?
That's why I have 2 versions of this app. There is a metro version you can get from the windows 8 app store. The one in the screenshot will work with anything windows. XP, vista, 7, whatever.
Edit.
Uploading the virus onto my online storage right now. Will pm you a link when it's done.
Edited by yenmor, : No reason given.
Edited by yenmor, : No reason given.

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yenmor
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Message 5 of 19 (706876)
09-18-2013 10:47 PM
Reply to: Message 4 by New Cat's Eye
09-18-2013 10:46 PM


CS writes:
Oh, well then nevermind.
I hope you realize that was a joke. The file is a zip file. Inside, you will find the exe and installation files. It's a small program.

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yenmor
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Message 7 of 19 (706880)
09-18-2013 11:00 PM
Reply to: Message 6 by New Cat's Eye
09-18-2013 10:53 PM


Eh, my boyfriend tells me I'm socially awkward like that Dexter the serial killer dude.

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yenmor
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Message 9 of 19 (707020)
09-20-2013 7:08 PM
Reply to: Message 8 by New Cat's Eye
09-20-2013 12:30 PM


Thanks for the info. I was afraid of this. It's a compatibility issue. I'll get back to you on this.
Added by edit.
Question for you. Is the xp machine you got this from on sp3?
The reason I ask is because I hadn't accounted for xp machines that never upgraded to sp3. In order for the app to be compatible with xp machines that are older, I'd have to downgrade my project down to 3.5 or 3.0. Hadn't considered this. Damn.
Edit again.
This is going to take some work to get this to be completely compatible with everything old. Stay tuned. I need to rewrite about 20% of the code.
Edited by yenmor, : No reason given.
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Edited by yenmor, : No reason given.

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yenmor
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Message 11 of 19 (707037)
09-21-2013 1:53 AM
Reply to: Message 10 by CosmicChimp
09-20-2013 8:22 PM


I saw.
This means I'll have to bring it all the way back to 2.5 or 3.0.

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yenmor
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Message 13 of 19 (707123)
09-23-2013 5:14 PM
Reply to: Message 12 by New Cat's Eye
09-21-2013 10:27 AM


Ok, it almost killed me, but I think I got it. With older machines, I have to downgrade everything to 3.5. Unfortunately, many of the codes I wrote before were for .net 4.5, so they weren't compatible. I had to rewrite some of the subroutines. There was one instance where under 4.5 it took 2 lines of code but after I reverted to 3.5 I had to rewrite it and it took 60 lines!
I will pm you a download link after I've hammered out some minor bugs.

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yenmor
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Message 15 of 19 (707199)
09-24-2013 2:26 PM
Reply to: Message 14 by New Cat's Eye
09-24-2013 9:45 AM


No worries, mate.
I've sent another pm with hopefully a compatible version for xp. The app itself is half finished, so don't be too harsh on it. :-)
I know, the UI kinda looks childish to some people, but I hate boring UI's that look like they were built in a hurry for windows 98.
I've been discussing with a couple friends of mine who are now independent developers. See, I was going to put a license, license check, and all of that DRM good stuff in my programs. They have convinced me not to do such thing. Why? Because my apps will get pirated no matter what. Making my buyers jump through hoops will only deter them from buying. My friends took a vow never to put DRM in their programs. And they have been quite successful, actually. Ever since they stopped putting DRM in their apps, those apps have stopped showing up on torrent sites. I guess because it wasn't a challenge anymore for hackers.
I've just taken that vow myself. I'm in the process of removing all the DRMs from my already published apps.
Added by edit.
This modification is nothing.
So, I recently ported an app from the desktop environment over to windows 8 metro interface. It's a productivity app, so you have to be able to print, right? Well, on the desktop side, it took 4 lines of code to format the documents and print it out on paper. Simple.
Last night, when I started I was surprised that my codes didn't work with the new windows 8 metro interface. So, I began to search everywhere for tutorials on how to print a document in the new interface. That was when I came across hundreds... thousands of cries of anguish from developers before me who also tried to write a printing protocol for the new interface but failed.
There is a printing sample code by MS, but it is probably the most confusing code I have ever seen. It is the embodiment of spaghetti code. Impossible to read and make useful.
Then I found this blog by a developer who finally figured a way to write out a print protocol. His code was 120 lines long! I kept on searching and this was the shortest anyone has ever made it. So, I implemented his code and what do you know it worked. But then my app crashed when I tried to print more than 1 page.
I emailed the guy and he said he was aware of that, but since it took him way too long to figure that out he gave up on printing in his windows 8 apps.
So, I really concentrated and about 70+ lines of codes later I was able to format and print single or multiple pages of documents.
Think about it. On the desktop, it took 4 lines of code. To do the same in metro, it took 200+ lines of code!
I emailed a windows 8 development team member and released some steam. After all, it took me 5 hours to write a printing protocol for my app. What the hell were they thinking?
This morning, I got a reply. He said people have been spamming his mailbox from day 1 about this issue. That's all he said.
Can you believe that? 200+ lines of code just to print a damn "hello world" text string.
This morning, I did some more searchings, and as I suspected there is no other way to print in the new interface.
You see, before with the desktop we could print by sending the string text directly to the printer. The new interface made it impossible. Now, we have to create a new page, format our texts, put everything in the new page, and print an image based on that page. And that's for single page printing. That's as far as that guy got before he gave up. To solve the multiple page printing problem, I had to add in an overflow page to receive the texts that didn't all fit on one page. So, with each additional page, more memory is taken up. This is an extremely resource consuming process.
Who's the genius behind MS's metro team that decided to make printing this complicated? Do they just want us to use facebook all day instead of being productive?
Edited by yenmor, : No reason given.

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yenmor
Member (Idle past 3762 days)
Posts: 145
Joined: 07-01-2013


Message 17 of 19 (707205)
09-24-2013 3:31 PM
Reply to: Message 16 by New Cat's Eye
09-24-2013 2:49 PM


Just resend it to you twice. The first time I sent the wrong link again. Ignore that. The second time with the link to the exe file is the right one. I decided to make it a simple exe app so you won't have to install it on your machine. I know some companies give their employees machines that are locked down so they couldn't install anything. The app I just sent you does not need to be installed. Just run it.

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yenmor
Member (Idle past 3762 days)
Posts: 145
Joined: 07-01-2013


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Message 19 of 19 (707207)
09-24-2013 3:47 PM
Reply to: Message 18 by New Cat's Eye
09-24-2013 3:41 PM


Don't forget to check to see if your bank account still has anything in it LOL.
But joking aside, thanks mate.

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