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Topic: Syria syrisouly?
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1.61803
Member (Idle past 1534 days) Posts: 2928 From: Lone Star State USA Joined: 02-19-2004
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Message 1 of 50 (705893)
09-03-2013 4:12 PM
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Well the U.S. is days away form sending some whoop ass to Syria in the form of cruise missles. Is this the best course of action? If you where king for a day what would you suggest? Personally I think is is rather...kind of weird. Sort of like, well Junior you broke the rules so your going to have to stand for a whooping. But before I whoop your ass I need to discuss it with your momma. So stand by until we decide exactly what your punishment will be. Edited by 1.61803, : No reason given.
"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs
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1.61803
Member (Idle past 1534 days) Posts: 2928 From: Lone Star State USA Joined: 02-19-2004
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Message 14 of 50 (706065)
09-05-2013 5:00 PM
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So yes it seems drawing a line in the sand that the U.S. will not waver on means we must respond with a few cruise missiles. It would be nice for a bit of international support in this effort other than rhetoric. Come you Brits! grow some bollocks. The US needs to save face on this one by not appearing to be the only ignorant hawkish brutish country willing to kill in the name of non violence. At the very least let us paint a Union Jack or St. George cross on one or two of them missles. Gassing civillians is bad M-kay?
"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs
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1.61803
Member (Idle past 1534 days) Posts: 2928 From: Lone Star State USA Joined: 02-19-2004
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Message 16 of 50 (706079)
09-05-2013 8:38 PM
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Reply to: Message 15 by gene90
09-05-2013 5:59 PM
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Hello gene90, Do I deny the logic that the police use violence to suppress violence? No I do not. In fact that seems to be how the U.S. traditionally sees itself, as the self appointed police force of the world. I get the feeling that regardless of what choice is made it will end badly for the administration.
"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs
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1.61803
Member (Idle past 1534 days) Posts: 2928 From: Lone Star State USA Joined: 02-19-2004
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Message 21 of 50 (706123)
09-06-2013 10:43 AM
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Reply to: Message 17 by ramoss
09-05-2013 9:01 PM
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Hello Ramoss,
Ramoss writes: I don't think you are right.
Maybe not, but look at the track record. I think it was Congressman Alan Grayson (D) who said something to the effect.." if President Obama ended world hunger tomorrow, Republican house members would blame him for contributing to global over population." Ramoss writes: In either case, he is making sure that the members of Congress are not playing Tuesday morning quarterbacks. Heh, that wont prevent them. Obama just needs to do what he feels is the right thing and who gives a crap what congress thinks at this point. They are already back peddling they're initial support. It is just sad. I was very affected seeing the footage of those people suffering the effects of nerve agent. I support the presidents stance on this.
"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs
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1.61803
Member (Idle past 1534 days) Posts: 2928 From: Lone Star State USA Joined: 02-19-2004
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Message 22 of 50 (706124)
09-06-2013 10:57 AM
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Reply to: Message 20 by caffeine
09-06-2013 4:46 AM
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Hi Caffeine,
Caffeine writes: but they've promised that if the US invades, the German government will be cheering - from a long distance away. * Hahhhha! this made me chuckle.*
"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs
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1.61803
Member (Idle past 1534 days) Posts: 2928 From: Lone Star State USA Joined: 02-19-2004
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Message 23 of 50 (706126)
09-06-2013 11:03 AM
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Reply to: Message 19 by frako
09-06-2013 2:58 AM
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frako writes: Given the track record of the US telling the truth for the past 14 years or the track record of the US telling the truth about why they started a war well since its existence. And that Assad had UN inspectors not far away from the attack site making the gas attack an insane move by him i kind of doubt that he was the one who used the gas. That and combined with the desperation of the opposing forces, who have very dubious morals, and for the past while all they herd form the national community that the world will help if chemical weapons are used. Making them the more likely suspect.
President Putin...is that you?
"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs
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1.61803
Member (Idle past 1534 days) Posts: 2928 From: Lone Star State USA Joined: 02-19-2004
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Message 25 of 50 (706128)
09-06-2013 11:35 AM
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Reply to: Message 24 by gene90
09-06-2013 11:21 AM
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Hi gene90, I agree with what you said. The US has a long way to go in redeveloping it's credibilty. I can only hope that cooler heads always prevail. Gassing people is not the end all as biological weapons are also of concern. If the world stands by and bears witness to the indisciminate use of such weapons shame on all of us. imo.
"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs
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Member (Idle past 1534 days) Posts: 2928 From: Lone Star State USA Joined: 02-19-2004
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Message 28 of 50 (706133)
09-06-2013 12:08 PM
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Reply to: Message 27 by frako
09-06-2013 11:43 AM
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Your information is dated. It was Obama in the library with the candlestick.
"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs
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1.61803
Member (Idle past 1534 days) Posts: 2928 From: Lone Star State USA Joined: 02-19-2004
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Message 41 of 50 (706372)
09-10-2013 10:08 AM
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Well it seems Assad is open to the notion of surrendering all Chemical munitions to International control for destruction. I'd like to think this would be a solution rather than a punitive attack. The question remains, how does anyone even know what their inventory is?
"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs
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1.61803
Member (Idle past 1534 days) Posts: 2928 From: Lone Star State USA Joined: 02-19-2004
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Hello Omnivorous,
Omnivorous writes: The only attacks that make sense for the U.S. are punitive; occupations are so pricey. Yes I agree, I meant that any attack at this point would be strictly punitive.
Omnivorous writes: But how does taking some chemical weapons from Syria "solve" the problem of Assad's war crimes?
It doesn't, I believe the goal is to prevent their further use. In order for Assad to be punished for war crimes he would have to be charged, captured and sent to trial and be found guilty. I am all for it, but wont hold my breath.
"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs
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