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Author Topic:   God’s glitch in Eden. A & E had to break God’s second command to accomplish the first
ringo
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Message 91 of 95 (705197)
08-24-2013 11:42 AM
Reply to: Message 85 by Greatest I am
08-23-2013 4:13 PM


Greatest I am writes:
Be it evil in itself or in it's use, those evil aspects or uses could still not be known to A & E as they knew nothing of good and evil, be it the thing itself or the use of it.
But Adam and Eve could still use sex without knowing anything about its good and evil implications.

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Message 92 of 95 (705203)
08-24-2013 3:36 PM
Reply to: Message 91 by ringo
08-24-2013 11:42 AM


Ringo
No. They could not know of anything about sex or it's use.
It's use has good and evil aspects just like sex itself.
The free will to do anything must be driven by desire and A & E had no desire to choose good or evil aspects of something before eating of the tree of knowledge and finding out what choices could be made.
You cannot turn right or desire to turn right if you do not know you can turn right or what turning right means.
Regards
DL
Edited by Greatest I am, : No reason given.

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Message 93 of 95 (705204)
08-24-2013 4:01 PM
Reply to: Message 90 by arachnophilia
08-23-2013 9:42 PM


Re: good and evil
arachnophilia
I think you are correct in that the ancients may have written up religions the way they did strictly to control sex in areas of finite resources.
I wrote this a while back but did not do particularly well in furthering that discussion.
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Was the first Temple Prostitute a man or a woman?
WHEN SAME-SEX MARRIAGE WAS A CHRISTIAN RITE1
Religion was invented to control reproduction and sex within finite living environments. The word we have coined as God was invented and his priest worked for the King. The King ruled all things including sexual mores, and ethical customs and fashions of the population through the temples. He had to because his kingdom was wrestled from sand and sweat and his resources were finite.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZ9cvYB7Tes
The king had to appease the natural desires of all of his people somehow and still maintain the population at the proper sustainable number. No exceptions. He was the only King the people would ever know and sin in reproductive terms meant death at his hands. That is the only time death and sexual sin should be connected for all of those who think that a benevolent God would ever punish more than an eye for an eye. The wages for any other sin is definitely not death. That would be an injustice and a King or God would never do such. That is why he enforced chastity as an extra live baby, --- meant someone else had to die.
Thus was the oldest profession born. The temple prostitute. Male and female. Male first and then later, female. Male first is likely because of the armies that had to be maintained. After all, women were chattel and male bonding is what kept the city alive. This is not to say that there was no love between man and wife or that she was not equal in any way. Sanctity says that the King ruled only for woman’s sake because his queen was the womb of his seed.
The History of Male Friendships | The Art of Manliness
The temple prostitutes were well respected and accepted as just another variant of sexual delight by all. After all, most of these prostitutes were likely the Kings children, males and females, and they performed a vital service to the city state.
Do you think the first temple prostitute was a man or a woman?
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Sex and the ancient Arcanum seem to also have a close connection.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TndLzFZI9A
Regards
DL

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ringo
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Message 94 of 95 (705250)
08-25-2013 2:47 PM
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08-24-2013 3:36 PM


Greatest I am writes:
You cannot turn right or desire to turn right if you do not know you can turn right or what turning right means.
Of course you can. Animals that don't have the knowledge of good and evil turn right every day.
All you need to turn right is a body that will turn right. The only desire you need is the desire to turn right. You don't have to know right from left and you certainly don't need to know the good and evil aspects of left and right.

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Message 95 of 95 (705340)
08-26-2013 10:11 AM


My point is well made. No point in beating a dead horse for nothing.
Regards
DL

  
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