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Alfred Maddenstein
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Message 226 of 373 (697320)
04-23-2013 2:49 PM
Reply to: Message 222 by Coyote
04-22-2013 8:56 PM


Re: Where are your dragons?
Listen, Coy Boy, there is a whole host of other issues associated with dragons discussed here you lot would dearly love to bury under your cheap jokes. It's been twenty years since the Egyptian mummies been busted smoking tobacco and getting high on South American cocaine. How that was possible? It is painfully obvious to a child but not to a quackademic that pyramids on both sides of the Atlantic resemble each other way too closely to be randomly unrelated. Another little detail for your information: the Acambaro figurines depict apart from dinosaurs a lot of Egyptian looking simians. How do you explain all that inside of the framework of your paradigm, Coy Boy?

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Coyote
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Message 227 of 373 (697321)
04-23-2013 2:55 PM
Reply to: Message 225 by Alfred Maddenstein
04-23-2013 2:24 PM


Evidence
The cat neither believes nor disbelieves in dragons.
The title of the thread is " Did Dinosaurs live with man?"
Belief has nothing to do with it. What does the evidence say?
The issue discussed here is whether the dragons and dinosaurs are the same phenomenon and the issue is how, when and if they all became extinct and it is clearly far from being any settled science.
The evidence shows: 1) There is no such thing as a dragon. 2) Dinosaurs became extinct some 65 million years ago. 3) The reason(s) for the extinction are still being explored, although there are some strong hypotheses. 4) There is no evidence of true dinosaurs in the recent past (birds etc. don't count).
Understand?
Yes, we understand, but it is clear you have been taken in by some religious claptrap that causes you to ignore the massive amount of evidence that shows that you are wrong.

Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.
Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein
How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein
It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers

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New Cat's Eye
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Message 228 of 373 (697324)
04-23-2013 4:06 PM
Reply to: Message 225 by Alfred Maddenstein
04-23-2013 2:24 PM


Re: Laughing back at the Coy Boy.
That won't wash here with the feline.
Well duh. You're too interested in obfuscation to come to terms with the fact that science works wonders.
The cat neither believes nor disbelieves in dragons.
Well that's stupid; dragons are obviously mythological creatures.
The issue discussed here is whether the dragons and dinosaurs are the same phenomenon and the issue is how, when and if they all became extinct and it is clearly far from being any settled science.
The dinosaurs that could have passed for dragons went extinct over 60 million years ago.
It plausible that some of the dragon legends came from ancient men finding the fossilized remains of dinosaurs, assuming they were contemporary, and then filling in the gaps with imagination.

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Alfred Maddenstein
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Message 229 of 373 (697325)
04-23-2013 4:06 PM
Reply to: Message 227 by Coyote
04-23-2013 2:55 PM


Re: Evidence
Your evidence is yours and it is coloured with your prior assumptions and interpretations the cat may remain sceptical about. Mine is mine, Coy Boy. From the evidence I gathered it rather follows that you lot got very little clue on anything, dinosaurs and dragons might well be the same phenomenon, the simians might well be much older than you assume with a totally different history than you presume in your baboonish arrogance while some dinosaurs likely to have been around not so long ago.

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New Cat's Eye
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Message 230 of 373 (697326)
04-23-2013 4:26 PM
Reply to: Message 229 by Alfred Maddenstein
04-23-2013 4:06 PM


Re: Evidence
Your evidence is yours and it is coloured with your prior assumptions and interpretations the cat may remain sceptical about. Mine is mine, Coy Boy.
Okay, so the scientific approach has yielded all sorts of wonderful advancements for mankind.
The only thing your's has done is try to destroy the credibility of our knowledge.
But the results are what matters, and Science won a long time ago.

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Coyote
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Message 231 of 373 (697330)
04-23-2013 5:35 PM
Reply to: Message 229 by Alfred Maddenstein
04-23-2013 4:06 PM


"What ifs" again
From the evidence I gathered it rather follows that you lot got very little clue on anything, dinosaurs and dragons might well be the same phenomenon, the simians might well be much older than you assume with a totally different history than you presume in your baboonish arrogance while some dinosaurs likely to have been around not so long ago.
Your "what ifs" are not evidence! All the "what ifs" you can make up don't negate a single piece of scientific evidence. In these three cases the evidence shows you and your "what ifs" are wrong.
To disprove scientific evidence or theory takes real evidence. It can be done, but apparently not by you, as all you can come up with are "what ifs."
But then I guess if you had evidence you would have presented it by now, eh?

Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.
Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein
How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein
It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers

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Alfred Maddenstein
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Message 232 of 373 (697331)
04-23-2013 6:27 PM
Reply to: Message 231 by Coyote
04-23-2013 5:35 PM


Re: "What ifs" again
There are no what ifs about it, Coy Boy. The evidence is loud and clear and it is all in your face that you quackademic lot are a bunch of arrogant presumptuous baboons who got no clue even about who your baboonish wives associated with last week yet are claiming to be able to enlighten the public on who the dinosaurs kept company with and who they kept company without. As the cat said you are a total waste of the space occupied. The bible pushers or Ancient Alien folks are at least trying to give some explanations to the loads of anomalies and stuff. You lot just follow the most boring party line imaginable regardless of anything.

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Coyote
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Message 233 of 373 (697332)
04-23-2013 6:34 PM
Reply to: Message 232 by Alfred Maddenstein
04-23-2013 6:27 PM


Re: "What ifs" again
You lot just follow the most boring party line imaginable regardless of anything.
You have it backwards, as usual.
We follow the evidence because it is evidence, while creationists such as yourself seem to ignore the evidence no matter how compelling.
The rest of your post is the usual gibberish mixed with personal attacks. You must feel somehow that gibberish and personal attacks make your claims more believable to the other posters and lurkers here.
Have you ever considered that they just make you seem foolish, and cast considerable doubt on everything you say?

Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.
Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein
How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein
It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers

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Alfred Maddenstein
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Message 234 of 373 (697334)
04-23-2013 8:00 PM
Reply to: Message 233 by Coyote
04-23-2013 6:34 PM


Re: "What ifs" again
No, Coy Boy, the only evidence you lot follow is that leading along the party line. The rest you run away from or suppress if others follow it. You danced around the cocaine and tobacco the Egyptians loved and the rest of it.
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Coyote
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Message 235 of 373 (697336)
04-23-2013 8:19 PM
Reply to: Message 234 by Alfred Maddenstein
04-23-2013 8:00 PM


Re: "What ifs" again
A newspaper report that's over 100 years old? And the artifacts are missing? (Or more likely never existed!)
And this is what you're relying on? This is the best you've got?
You're joking! Don't you have any real evidence?

Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.
Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein
How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein
It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers

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Alfred Maddenstein
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Posts: 565
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Message 236 of 373 (697339)
04-23-2013 9:08 PM
Reply to: Message 235 by Coyote
04-23-2013 8:19 PM


Re: "What ifs" again
Blah, blah, blah. More brazen bluffing from the shy girl. All the finds are either destroyed or are in Smithsonian lofts under lock and key. The cocaine and tobacco in Egyptian bellies are well tested and documented so transoceanic connection between Meso-America and the rest well before Columbus is as certain as that you lot are phonies selling snake-oil to the feline and the public. There is a Japanese tribe in Mexico and there are old Hebrew inscriptions there and so on. All that is exactly what is exhibited by the Acambaro figurines representing all kinds of simian races that should have been unknown to the locals there according to your party-line.

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Coyote
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Message 237 of 373 (697341)
04-23-2013 9:29 PM
Reply to: Message 236 by Alfred Maddenstein
04-23-2013 9:08 PM


Re: "What ifs" again
Get back to us when you have evidence.
Until then, perhaps you could peddle your nonsense elsewhere; somebody, somewhere might be silly enough to take it seriously. Its a big interweb.

Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.
Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein
How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein
It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers

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foreveryoung
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Message 238 of 373 (697342)
04-23-2013 10:48 PM
Reply to: Message 229 by Alfred Maddenstein
04-23-2013 4:06 PM


Re: Evidence
AM writes:
the simians might well be much older than you assume
The moon might be made of blue cheese too. Why should anyone investigate further into the idea that simians are much older than traditionally thought?

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Dr Adequate
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Message 239 of 373 (697381)
04-24-2013 5:55 PM
Reply to: Message 236 by Alfred Maddenstein
04-23-2013 9:08 PM


Re: "What ifs" again
Blah, blah, blah. More brazen bluffing from the shy girl. All the finds are either destroyed or are in Smithsonian lofts under lock and key. The cocaine and tobacco in Egyptian bellies are well tested and documented so transoceanic connection between Meso-America and the rest well before Columbus is as certain as that you lot are phonies selling snake-oil to the feline and the public. There is a Japanese tribe in Mexico and there are old Hebrew inscriptions there and so on. All that is exactly what is exhibited by the Acambaro figurines representing all kinds of simian races that should have been unknown to the locals there according to your party-line.
Well, this is incontestable evidence of dragons, because as we all know when these mythical fire-breathing lizards weren't busy ferrying Japanese people to Mexico they were kingpins in the ancient Egyptian drug trade.

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Alfred Maddenstein
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Message 240 of 373 (697385)
04-24-2013 7:04 PM
Reply to: Message 238 by foreveryoung
04-23-2013 10:48 PM


Re: Evidence
Why not, Old Timer? If your hypothesis is that the moon is made of cheese, the feline has no problem with that. Just explain how that is possible and he'll consider your suggestions.
The simians being older than the official quackademic line suggests they are is based on the observation that no quack has a clue what the oldest ruins and standing artefacts were for nor by what means they had been erected in the first place.

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