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Author Topic:   Belief in God is scientific.
NoNukes
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Message 10 of 262 (695132)
04-03-2013 10:51 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by divermike1974
04-03-2013 3:57 AM


To me it seems that science is flawed, scientists more or less discount there own existence, proffering only to have eyes and a calculator with which to make answers and not using the full power of thought.
Surely you've skipped some steps in this argument. Are you claiming to have reached the conclusion that God exists by using the scientific method? And why is it important to you that God exists be a scientific conclusion. Is science the same as truth to you?
Perhaps your own thinking is an example of why we actually apply rules for the processes used to obtain scientific results.
Also i am not sure where this should go?
Must resist ....fight... must not respond to straight line...
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Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
I would say here something that was heard from an ecclesiastic of the most eminent degree; ‘That the intention of the Holy Ghost is to teach us how one goes to heaven, not how the heaven goes.’ Galileo Galilei 1615.
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass

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NoNukes
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Message 32 of 262 (695172)
04-03-2013 3:45 PM
Reply to: Message 29 by divermike1974
04-03-2013 3:36 PM


Why? Let's suppose a scenario in which there could be quadrillions of types of world formed, but there's only this one.
Do we have to wait for you to bring up anything? Why can't any topic be used to explore whether your brain's conclsions are to be trusted as science?

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
I would say here something that was heard from an ecclesiastic of the most eminent degree; ‘That the intention of the Holy Ghost is to teach us how one goes to heaven, not how the heaven goes.’ Galileo Galilei 1615.
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass

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NoNukes
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Message 79 of 262 (695226)
04-03-2013 8:21 PM
Reply to: Message 30 by New Cat's Eye
04-03-2013 3:42 PM


Re: Your brain gets too much wrong
I don't see an illusion of motion either. Maybe my display isn't the best.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
I would say here something that was heard from an ecclesiastic of the most eminent degree; ‘That the intention of the Holy Ghost is to teach us how one goes to heaven, not how the heaven goes.’ Galileo Galilei 1615.
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass

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NoNukes
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Message 100 of 262 (695278)
04-04-2013 10:05 AM


Why the extended beat down
The man has not only admitted that he was wrong, but has confessed that he was driven soley by his religious zeal to post what was essentially gibberish.
What more do you want from him. Time to take your foot (feet) off of his throat and let him up. Perhaps he'll be better prepared next time.
You do want him to post again, don't you?
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Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
I would say here something that was heard from an ecclesiastic of the most eminent degree; ‘That the intention of the Holy Ghost is to teach us how one goes to heaven, not how the heaven goes.’ Galileo Galilei 1615.
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass

  
NoNukes
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Message 184 of 262 (695673)
04-08-2013 4:00 PM
Reply to: Message 181 by divermike1974
04-08-2013 3:27 PM


Re: Watch the language
I am not here to be arrogant or to claim any kind of theory or even hypotheses. I am merely pointing out that there is a statistic out there that seems distasteful to the scientific community even though it is a product of the human brain, the same brain which is responsible for the entire human knowledge.
Only some brains are responsible for the creation of any human knowledge, and those brains nearly exclusively turn out to be possessed by people of other than ordinary intelligence. The rest of us humans have at best been able to grasp that knowledge, with some of the humans actively opposing the acquisition of knowledge.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
I would say here something that was heard from an ecclesiastic of the most eminent degree; ‘That the intention of the Holy Ghost is to teach us how one goes to heaven, not how the heaven goes.’ Galileo Galilei 1615.
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass

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NoNukes
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Message 250 of 262 (696116)
04-12-2013 9:22 AM
Reply to: Message 247 by Ossat
04-12-2013 5:14 AM


You do have the same genetic information that your parents in which they and you have all necessary information required to make a human. If was so in the past and will be in the future, regardless of that variety you mention. any variation will never account to make something different than a human
So I have all of "information to make a human" plus some more info my parents never had. What puts a limit on the information my future descendants will have? Because the process you describe seems to lead to something distinguishable from current humans unless there is a limit or barrier.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
I would say here something that was heard from an ecclesiastic of the most eminent degree; ‘That the intention of the Holy Ghost is to teach us how one goes to heaven, not how the heaven goes.’ Galileo Galilei 1615.
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass

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