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Taq
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Message 8 of 43 (693715)
03-19-2013 5:11 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by GrimSqueaker
03-19-2013 7:00 AM


What if we were unwanted?
The possibility I raise is that the universe is designed, but it was designed to be sterile. It is just possible that our universe was designed by a Jr. High school student from a very advanced species. He was given the task of designing a universe for the highest number of black holes, but with no life. He failed, but only barely. The teacher could find millions and billions of black holes, but only a handful of planets with life. He got a B+.

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Message 33 of 43 (694059)
03-21-2013 2:40 PM
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03-21-2013 1:35 PM


Re: The Dr. A theory of denial
No one has attempted to say WHY the law exist?
How can they not exist? Matter and energy has to interact somehow.
And you guys want to find the deeper meaning in life? With these comprehension skills? Good luck.
The point being made is that there is not a deeper meaning in life that is intrinsic to the universe.

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Message 35 of 43 (694071)
03-21-2013 3:27 PM
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03-21-2013 3:15 PM


I can't remember what the name for the philosophical principle is but there is a position that simply states,
"since we can ask the question "why do we exist" we can assume that there are the correct properties in place to allow us to exist"
Sounds like the weak anthropic principle.
"Critics of the SAP argue in favor of a weak anthropic principle (WAP) similar to the one defined by Brandon Carter, which states that the universe's ostensible fine tuning is the result of selection bias: i.e., only in a universe capable of eventually supporting life will there be living beings capable of observing any such fine tuning, while a universe less compatible with life will go unbeheld."
Anthropic principle - Wikipedia

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