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Topic: Morality without god
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Faith 
Suspended Member (Idle past 1465 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: 10-06-2001
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Message 871 of 1221 (693936)
03-20-2013 11:43 PM
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Reply to: Message 866 by Theodoric
03-20-2013 10:32 PM
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Re: THE IGNORANT ARE THOSE WHO BELIEVE ROME
Hating evil is a good thing. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Coyote
Member (Idle past 2127 days) Posts: 6117 Joined: 01-12-2008
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Message 872 of 1221 (693938)
03-20-2013 11:59 PM
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Reply to: Message 864 by Theodoric
03-20-2013 10:01 PM
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Beastly numbers
I am sure I can find plenty of things and names that add up to 666. 666? Bah! How do we know it wasn't 6 raised to the 6th power, and that raised to the 6th power? That would be something like 1.03144 28. Now that would that be a really beastly number! If you want to think a lot smaller, there's 999. That's a beast who works out with weights. Or 333. A mere baby beast. I guess you could also call that a mini-beast. The point is that numerology is silly, as you can make it do most anything you want, and attribute to the various permutations almost anything you want. All without the least bit of evidence.
Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge. Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers
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ramoss
Member (Idle past 633 days) Posts: 3228 Joined: 08-11-2004
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Message 873 of 1221 (693939)
03-21-2013 12:12 AM
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Reply to: Message 871 by Faith
03-20-2013 11:43 PM
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Re: THE IGNORANT ARE THOSE WHO BELIEVE ROME
Yet, hate is evil, so by hating evil, you become that which you hate. How ironic.
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Faith
Suspended Member (Idle past 1465 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: 10-06-2001
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Message 874 of 1221 (693940)
03-21-2013 12:24 AM
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Reply to: Message 873 by ramoss
03-21-2013 12:12 AM
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Re: THE IGNORANT ARE THOSE WHO BELIEVE ROME
Hate is evil, huh. Sounds like something a Jesuit must have invented. Sorry, if you don't hate the right things you can't love the right things either.
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9141 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.3
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Message 875 of 1221 (693941)
03-21-2013 12:27 AM
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Reply to: Message 871 by Faith
03-20-2013 11:43 PM
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Re: THE IGNORANT ARE THOSE WHO BELIEVE ROME
LOl and of course you address nothing posted.
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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Dr Adequate
Member (Idle past 305 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: 07-20-2006
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Message 876 of 1221 (693942)
03-21-2013 12:37 AM
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Reply to: Message 870 by Faith
03-20-2013 11:40 PM
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OK I was wrong that the Koran doesn't speak as if from God, apparently it does and is pretty much nothing but orders and instructions. That's not true either. I'd recommend that you read it before you talk about it --- only you're very gullible, and you'd be even more insufferable if you were a Muslim.
What God told Moses to do is not the same thing as telling the reader to do it as the Koran does but of course all the liars who hate God like to pretend it is. This sentence is hard to decode. According to the passage I quoted, your God says that the penalty for blasphemy shall be death by stoning. Is this moral or not?
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Dr Adequate
Member (Idle past 305 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: 07-20-2006
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Message 877 of 1221 (693943)
03-21-2013 12:38 AM
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Reply to: Message 869 by Faith
03-20-2013 11:34 PM
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Re: THE IGNORANT ARE THOSE WHO BELIEVE ROME
Clever of you, just invent a name and put it in bogus Latinized English so you can count its Roman numerals, and consider it equivalent to an actual Latin title that happens to mean Antichrist and you've proved the Pope is not the Antichrist. Good for you. Those who like to be deceived know how to do a very good job of it. When you have your audience with him so he can thank you for your service to the cause, will you kiss his ring or his satin slipper? Or is it velvet, can't remember. If you are trying to pretend that I feel any affection towards the Church of Rome ... well, this wouldn't be the first time I've advised you to try being a little more honest.
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Faith
Suspended Member (Idle past 1465 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: 10-06-2001
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The question was whether it is the same thing the Koran does and it is not. And the Koran IS predominantly a bunch of instructions, do this and do that.
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Faith
Suspended Member (Idle past 1465 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: 10-06-2001
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Re: THE IGNORANT ARE THOSE WHO BELIEVE ROME
Your perfectly evil devious excuse for an answer to me with that Barney stupidity should get you well thanked by the Pope. Who cares what you believe, he'll want to thank you.
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Faith
Suspended Member (Idle past 1465 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: 10-06-2001
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Message 880 of 1221 (693946)
03-21-2013 1:01 AM
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Reply to: Message 875 by Theodoric
03-21-2013 12:27 AM
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Re: THE IGNORANT ARE THOSE WHO BELIEVE ROME
LOl and of course you address nothing posted. Why should I address the usual nasty lies you tell about me? As for Jerome, who cares, 666 is well attested by the best. Why should evidence be needed for something that is so patently clearly obviously a title of the Pope and no other, that is affirmed by him and the whole Roman monstrosity? Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9141 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.3
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Message 881 of 1221 (693947)
03-21-2013 1:55 AM
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Reply to: Message 880 by Faith
03-21-2013 1:01 AM
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Re: THE IGNORANT ARE THOSE WHO BELIEVE ROME
Why should I address the usual nasty lies you tell about me? Lies? When did I lie about you?
As for Jerome, who cares, 666 is well attested by the best.
Without him your bible as you know it would not exist. Show me the original texts that show 666. Make an argument other than a bald face assertion.
Why should evidence be needed for something that is so patently clearly obviously a title of the Pope and no other, that is affirmed by him and the whole Roman monstrosity?
Because assertions with no evidence are as worthless as all the other shit and hate you spew. Nowhere has this title been affirmed by any Pope or the Roman Catholic Church. If it had you would be providing evidence. Your hate consumes you so that you have no ability to reason.
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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Dr Adequate
Member (Idle past 305 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: 07-20-2006
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Message 882 of 1221 (693949)
03-21-2013 1:57 AM
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Reply to: Message 874 by Faith
03-21-2013 12:24 AM
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Re: THE IGNORANT ARE THOSE WHO BELIEVE ROME
Hate is evil, huh. Sounds like something a Jesuit must have invented. Sorry, if you don't hate the right things you can't love the right things either. And for those who need reminding what "the right things" are ... "If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sistersyes, even their own lifesuch a person cannot be my disciple." (Luke 14:26)
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Dr Adequate
Member (Idle past 305 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: 07-20-2006
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Message 883 of 1221 (693950)
03-21-2013 2:00 AM
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Reply to: Message 878 by Faith
03-21-2013 12:39 AM
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The question was whether it is the same thing the Koran does and it is not. What?
And the Koran IS predominantly a bunch of instructions, do this and do that. Well, that's an improvement on "pretty much nothing but".
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Faith
Suspended Member (Idle past 1465 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: 10-06-2001
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Re: THE IGNORANT ARE THOSE WHO BELIEVE ROME
Indeed that is one of the right things.
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Dr Adequate
Member (Idle past 305 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: 07-20-2006
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Message 885 of 1221 (693952)
03-21-2013 2:04 AM
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Reply to: Message 879 by Faith
03-21-2013 12:40 AM
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Re: THE IGNORANT ARE THOSE WHO BELIEVE ROME
Your perfectly evil devious excuse for an answer to me with that Barney stupidity should get you well thanked by the Pope. Who cares what you believe, he'll want to thank you. It's interesting to learn what you consider "perfectly evil". But now perhaps you'd like to get back to defending slavery and genocide?
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