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Author Topic:   Hello everyone, and my senior paper
NoNukes
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Message 2 of 70 (692768)
03-07-2013 11:50 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by KevinAthans
03-07-2013 11:22 AM


Your paper sounds extremely ambitious. I look forward to any updates on your project you care to provide.
What do you plan to do with yourself upon graduation?

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
The apathy of the people is enough to make every statue leap from its pedestal and hasten the resurrection of the dead. William Lloyd Garrison.
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass

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NoNukes
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Message 49 of 70 (692937)
03-08-2013 3:03 PM
Reply to: Message 46 by Percy
03-08-2013 12:46 PM


Percy writes:
I can't put my finger on exactly what it was, but something in Kevin's initial few posts apparently set people off.
Let me suggest that the problem might be statements like this:
KevinAthans writes:
Every science is different but in my area of focus, which is biology, I constantly see studies and experiments done that do not need to be. They are a waste of money and time. A lot of biologists ask questions that they would not ask if the simply understood the theory.
The proposed solution to fixing these errors is to read the history behind Darwin's work rather than to study the science, which by the way need not involve even looking at 'Origin of Species'.
KevinAthans then goes on to denigrate certain lines of scientific inquiry based solely on his superior grasp of scientific history:
KevinAthans writes:
we should not be asking questions like that. I mean do we really need a study to explain why a blind mole would have red hair? Do we really need to do study after study to show the purpose of the female orgasm? I think not
Perhaps the hostility level KevinAthans is receiving is a bit over the top, but I'm not the least bit surprised that posters are calling him on to do a little introspection. I find the hubris level in his posts quite high.
Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
The apathy of the people is enough to make every statue leap from its pedestal and hasten the resurrection of the dead. William Lloyd Garrison.
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass

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NoNukes
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Message 53 of 70 (692953)
03-08-2013 5:00 PM
Reply to: Message 51 by Jon
03-08-2013 4:31 PM


You don't think the things he studies are as important as some other things;
I did not say anything like that. I commented on the fact that his remarks were provocative and I argued that they were also incorrect. I did not say anything about the importance of his studies.
I'll also note that he's backed off of those initial remarks.
Agree to disagree" is, quite honestly, the best way to handle such an utterly meaningless difference of opinion.
Let's you and I agree to disagree.
Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
The apathy of the people is enough to make every statue leap from its pedestal and hasten the resurrection of the dead. William Lloyd Garrison.
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass

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NoNukes
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Message 67 of 70 (693242)
03-12-2013 10:11 PM
Reply to: Message 63 by KevinAthans
03-12-2013 5:20 PM


Sleep man.
I like to say, "Well rested is well tested."

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
The apathy of the people is enough to make every statue leap from its pedestal and hasten the resurrection of the dead. William Lloyd Garrison.
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass

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NoNukes
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Message 68 of 70 (693243)
03-12-2013 10:13 PM
Reply to: Message 64 by Taq
03-12-2013 5:46 PM


This seems to be the weakness in your thesis so far. What I would hope to see from your paper is specifics as to why studying the history of science is important.
I don't think that stuff is part of the paper. The paper is about Darwin. His ideas about the importance of history have to do with the Evolution v. Creationism debate. At least as I understand his clarification in later messages.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
The apathy of the people is enough to make every statue leap from its pedestal and hasten the resurrection of the dead. William Lloyd Garrison.
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass

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